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| < 16ga. General Discussion ~ 16 Ga dram equivalent chart |
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:49 am
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| I would like to be able to measure shot by the Long Ton. Now that would be an investment. |
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:07 am
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On a serious note: The only interest I have in drams eq. is when I am sorting through the dozens of part boxes of shotshells (16 and other ga. I have accumulated) to find loads suitable for a particular shotgun. I am big on 2 1/2 dram loads for 6lb. 16ga. shotguns.
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:23 am
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Mike,
I recall being ridiculed for doing that( dismantling factory loads to verify the actual weight of shot load that was listed on the box, and I have found they generally had less than stated- I suppose that they figured it was better to short the customer a few pellets than risk over charging the load and running the pressure up.
With regard to the Dram Equivalent chart- There is only a slight difference for the gauge. I'll look up the charts but the DE for X amount of shot @ Y velocity is fairly close for the various gauges. |
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:50 am
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| AmericanMeet wrote: |
Mike,
I recall being ridiculed for doing that( dismantling factory loads to verify the actual weight of shot load that was listed on the box, and I have found they generally had less than stated- I suppose that they figured it was better to short the customer a few pellets than risk over charging the load and running the pressure up...
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In the early days of 12 gauge steel...I would always cut a shell...just to see and, BBBs and Ts were comparably few in number to tote up.
Several times, the pellets were identical in number but the noted weight told a different story.
Not sure what that means other than early steel performance may have been hampered by more than hunters learning to shoot steel and so developing confidence in different. |
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:29 pm
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I have some 16-gauge CIL duck loads from the glory days that say they contain 1-1/4 oz of No. 4 shot and will produce 3-1/2 drams equivalent in velocity, or around 1300 fps. I might save them for my last duck hunt when I'm no longer worried about the law. 
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:01 pm
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:23 pm
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| scraggley wrote: |
On a serious note: The only interest I have in drams eq. is when I am sorting through the dozens of part boxes of shotshells (16 and other ga. I have accumulated) to find loads suitable for a particular shotgun. I am big on 2 1/2 dram loads for 6lb. 16ga. shotguns.
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How much shot can you push with 2.5 drams in a 16? Reno |
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:57 pm
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Looks to me like 1 ounce at 1165 fps
http://www.mchenry-sc.org/Engineering/DRAM.html
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=215309&start=0
DRAM EQUIVALENT
The accepted method of correlating relative velocities of shotshells loaded with smokeless propellant to shotshells loaded with black powder. The reference black powder load chosen was a 3 dram charge of black powder, with 1 1/8 oz. of shot and a velocity of 1200 fps. Therefore, a 3 dram equivalent load using smokeless powder would be with 1 1/8 oz. of shot having a velocity of 1200 fps. or 1 1/4 oz. of shot and a velocity of 1165 fps. A 3 1/4 dram equivalent load might have 1 1/8 oz. of shot and a velocity of 1255 fps. Abbreviated Dram Equiv. |
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