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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ Worn Out |
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:43 pm
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Joined: 30 Aug 2011
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Location: Franklin ma.
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Have any of you fellas worn out a shotgun from long usage and many fired rounds.?? |
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:55 pm
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Browning Superposed, but rebuilt by Art's Gun Shop to as new.
Early Browning Citori, still hunting but is loose and needs rebuild.
Ithaca NID 10 gauge, but have shimmed it with .005 brass shim
and she still makes sweet music.
And in my younger days a Winchester 1200 made in 1964 and shot and shot and shot till it fell apart
Mike |
Last edited by skeettx on Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:21 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:30 pm
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I wore out my first shotgun, a 20 gauge "Coast to Coast" (Savage) pump. The gunsmith told me it was "unfixable."' |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:54 am
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Joined: 17 Jul 2008
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Location: Great State of Kansas
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Browning Superposed w 3" chambers....working nites, waterfowling on San Francisco bay EVERY day, shooting 1 7/8 Loads...dint last long |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:31 am
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Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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Location: Las Vegas
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skeettx wrote: |
Browning Superposed, but rebuilt by Art's Gun Shop to as new.
Early Browning Citori, still hunting but is loose and needs rebuild.
Ithaca NID 10 gauge, but have shimmed it with .005 brass shim
and she still makes sweet music.
And in my younger days a Winchester 1200 made in 1964 and shot and shot and shot till it fell apart
Mike
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Mike, out of curiosity, what does a "rebuild" entail?
Thanks!
Matt |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:51 pm
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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I do not know what all Art's did, but WOW!
T'was loose and clacked
See here, and if you give them a call, maybe they can address
your individual situation
http://artsgunshop.com/price-list.htm |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:07 pm
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Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Location: Nebraska
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Bought an 870 Wingmaster about 15 years ago that came from the factory worn out. Bolt so loose it rubs the side of the receiver. Ended up giving it to a kid to take to the river for a duck gun to shoot with sand in it. Told him when it quit to throw it in. |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:25 pm
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Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Location: NCWa
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I'm guessing that what is being considered "worn-out" in a break action is the distance between the breech face and the pivot pin increases in excess of tolerance. Would this wear be more a function of opening and closing the action without proper lube on the pin, or shooting loads that exceed the strength of the gun design? |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:51 pm
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Joined: 30 Aug 2011
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Location: Franklin ma.
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Its a lucky man that does enough shooting to wear out a shotgun. Some of the serious skeet and trap guys run some serious numbers through the tube. I'd be happy to just wear out one. Frank C. |
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Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:25 am
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Joined: 17 Jul 2008
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Location: Great State of Kansas
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The Superposed I mentioned wore out from crappy (no) care, heavy loads and neglect. It was loose on face, as well as had a side wobble, doubled on occasion, finish was pretty much gone, forend cracked. Seven days a week, leave work in Palo Alto, drive to the East Bay, shoot on Leslie Ponds or out of a scull boat. Ducks got cleaned by an old Portugee in Newark, gun got tossed in the truck...I traded the Super for a 3" Solid rib Model 12 which I treated the same way but never hurt much..Loved every minute of it, When Dad could join me, all the better....He shot a Parker, took much better care of it... |
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Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:13 am
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Location: the Moosehorn
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The only gun I ever wore out was an Ithaca Mag-10 auto. shot 2 1/2 oz loads of Luballoy BB's for years. then steel. I had Stan Baker put a choke tube system in the barrel in 1978. Killed so many Canadas with it I lost count . It finally breached in 2010 and bent the frame. I sold the barrel for more than I bought the gun for |
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Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:06 pm
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Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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still working after untold rounds of skeet and working over my Springer , "Ginger" for Grouse.
Still going strong. |
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Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:52 pm
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Location: massachusetts
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I can't say I've ever completely worn out any shotguns on my own, but I've helped a couple of already very used Remington 1100 models down that road. Both had been extensively used as skeet and trap guns. Abused is more like it--rode hard and put away wet.
I rebuilt both back to solid user status after they began falling apart. Both had their receivers squeezed up in a vise just a tad so the inside rails could be reworked to where the bolt carrier tabs wouldn't continue to fall out of them. The guns then got a milspec Parkerizing and put back together with salvaged spare parts from the junk pile of time (getting salvaged parts for Remington 1100 models is not at all hard if you know where to look--the guns have been manufactured by the gazillions). One needed to have a rust hole in the mag tube brazed up too. Done it myself with some luck, and happy to say it's still holding.
I gave one to a friend who passed on long ago. He's gone, but the gun is still perking along last I heard. His grown son still has it and shoots it every so often.
So we might be able to say we have worn some shotguns out, but some effort can often put them back in service if we can find the parts. That's probably the strongest suit these old 1100 models have--easy to find spare parts. Some of them will probably be still with us come resurrection day. |
Last edited by 16gaugeguy on Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:32 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:44 pm
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Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Location: NCWa
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16GG-
So you're saying that the primary areas of wear on the 1100 are the receiver rails where it contacts the bolt? I'm not familiar with the lock-up on an 1100, is it similar to the 870 with the wedge that is pushed up into place? If so, and if a leading cause of the wear on the rails is insufficient lube, wouldn't the lug/pivot also lose some metal? |
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Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:34 am
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Joined: 24 Jun 2013
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Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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AM - you are in the right spot. One of our skeet guys saw it cracking there and thought he could finish the round . The breaching gave way , but held enough to only require replacement parts . Like a m12 , that area where the lock is needs to be kept at least fairly clean , no build up is good ! |
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