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Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 1358 Location: Twin Cities, MN

BP lists the Sporting 16 wad and the Sporting 16 Short wad, with the Short being described as a wad for bulkier powders and heavier shot loads. However, in their comprehensive table of wads the Short is for 3/4-1 oz loads and the original Sporting 16 is for 7/8 - 1 1/8 oz loads. If I wish to load 3/4 and 7/8 oz loads in a Cheddite hull which wad would work better? Using American Select and Green Dot (assuming I can ever find GD again).
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/wad_page.asp
Thanks,
Jeff

Joined: 14 Nov 2011 Posts: 164 Location: Minnesota

Jeff, I have been using the short wad exclusively for about a year now. I am reloading with 7625 all 7/8 oz loads. i used to switch back and forth to load spreaders but I found the short wad works good for both and no issues with crimps.

Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 1358 Location: Twin Cities, MN

Thanks MR,
Just seems like the original should work better. I also load in Federals sometimes and those things are huge!
Jeff

Joined: 14 Nov 2011 Posts: 164 Location: Minnesota

Kind of forgot that I am loading 2 1/2's also. For a 2 3/4 hull I would use the original. The shorts are about 1/8" shorter.

Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 1358 Location: Twin Cities, MN

Thanks!

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

From the low pressure group: Cheddite 2 1/2" 7/8oz SR 7625 20.1 Ched 209
BP SG-16
I'm using #8 shot.

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

I just loaded a very similar load last night ( and many times before ) but with 19.5 gr SR7625 and never had that problem . Your load should load just fine . Make sure your wad is seated all the way down on the powder . Or you may need to use a little more pre -crimp . Also check your shot drop weight to be sure it is 7/8 oz ( 382.8 grains ) , sounds like you may dropping to much shot . That load should should not be a tight fit .

Member Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 1338

Member Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 1338

A roll crimping tool from BP solved a lot of my crimping problems, especially when loading shorter shells like 2 1/2".
xvigauge

OK, I'll try gathering less plastic on the pre-crimp, then I'll try loading a few less pellets, and if that doesn't do it I'll try roll crimping. The tech at MEC said that 2 1/2" shells are often roll crimped but that my current load should work just fine with a 6 fold crimp. Still learning how to adjust the Sizemaster but even my sloppy shells go bang just fine. I'd like to have a good clean crimp for my Winchester Model 12.
Thanks for the coaching folks.
Mike

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

Skydaner,

I have loaded many different 7/8 oz loads in the 2 1/2' straight walled hulls and the SG16 is ideal for this application . Not so much for 2 3/4" hulls , Mike Campbell is correct the Dr16 is better for 2 3/4 " hulls. The load you are using should load perfectly once you get your crimp dies adjusted correctly .

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the problem is with the Indian and not with the arrow. Let me fiddle with a few of the suggested adjustments and I'll get back to ya.
Regards,
Mike