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sakorick
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:26 am  Reply with quote



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Newbie here. I just purchased a 114 year old Drilling with 16 ga 2 1/2 IC and IM chokes and Krupp steel barrels. I have many questions.
1. Where can cases be found?
2. What powders/charge do you recommend? (I have titewad and longshot O/H)
3. Any special wads?
4. Can I use a spacer under the crimping stage to make decent 2 1/2 crimps?
5. Any other tips/precautions appreciated.

Thanks, Rick.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:30 am  Reply with quote
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Welcome to the 16ga forum
hulls in 2.5" can be had at Grafs,Ballistic Products, Precision Reloading. The best wad for them is the Gulandi 16ga short. The sp-16 will work with flake powders. RST makes loaded ammo in classic case length.
Precision reloading makes a "Short Kit" for mec loaders. and a great 16ga roll crimper. I use a PW 375 and I place a 1/4" spacer at the crimp station. If you want to roll crimp a small drill press works best for me. Harbour Frieght has one for about $70.00 very handy in the loading room.

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sakorick
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:57 am  Reply with quote



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Gosh, that was fast. Thanks a million brydog. Rick.

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skeettx
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:11 am  Reply with quote
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Hello Rick and welcome on your first postings
Beautiful gun !!

See here

https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!l=CH&i=165GA

and

http://www.rstshells.com/store/m/3-16-Gauge.aspx

I just took a limit of doves with my Krieghoff Semper drilling in 16x16x8x57R. My 16 gauge chambers are 2 1/2 inch.

What is your rifle caliber?

Again welcome
Mike

p.s. go here and enroll (it is FREE)
and you will find lots of 2 1/2 loads

https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/reloading16gauge/info


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sakorick
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:51 am  Reply with quote



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Hello Mike. It a 10.3x65R, Baenziger. I plan on fireforming some 7x56R brass with a possible trim and blast away.

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skeettx
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:57 am  Reply with quote
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Do you mean use 7x65R Brenneke cases and fire form them?

or easier to get 9.3x74 brass

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/Dept/Reloading/Rifle_Brass/9_point_3X74r

Bullet diameter .423 should be easy to cast Very Happy

Mike

p.s. or just use this Shocked

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/1164


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JNW
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:07 am  Reply with quote



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sako dick,
That gun is old and unsafe. You should immediately send it to me so I can make sure it's okay. Probably take 5 years or so!
Beautiful gun and welcome to 16 gauge madness.
Regards
Jeff
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sakorick
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:17 pm  Reply with quote



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[quote="skeettx"]Do you mean use 7x65R Brenneke cases and fire form them?

Bullet diameter .423 should be easy to cast Very Happy

Mike

Hello Mike. Yes, 7mmx65R. I'll need to trim the rim a few thou and possibly shim the rim thickness a bit and I have 40 pieces of brass on hand. To get things going, I ordered a box of 20 factory brass to get me started. Yes easy to cast. I plan on shooting a deer with the Dreiling this Fall. Rick.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:03 pm  Reply with quote
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Awesome and remember to glue the shim on the front of the rim.

Good luck on the hunt

What mould will you use?

NEI page #9



Thanks,
Mike


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sakorick
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:07 pm  Reply with quote



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I may have something else here.....looks to me like this rifle chamber has been misidentified! I need to cast and slug the whole thing....more next week as I'm off to KC with the grandkids tomorrow.

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Merkel16shtr
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:06 pm  Reply with quote



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Rick,

I get my 2.5" hulls here:

https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!c=13&ga=16%20Gauge

That way I don't have to trim down from 2.75"

You don't say what kind of reloader you have. I have a MEC and as has already been pointed out, there is a "short kit" available for it. But I have found for mine that the only stage that's affected by the short hull is the crimp stage. For that I glued a penny on top of a quarter and it raises the hull the correct amount for crimping. I did two of these spacers for the starter crimp stage and the final crimp stage and it only cost me $0.52.

That drilling looks like the barrels might be nitro proofed but you should still look for a lower pressure load for any 114 year old gun. 7625 is a good choice but like most shotgun powders it's hard to find these days. And there were reports earlier this year that it's going to be discontinued. That would be a shame for those of us that use it for low pressure loads. My opinion is use the Guilandi SG-16 wad with a 7/8 oz load for a nice easy shooting load and go have fun.
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sakorick
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:14 am  Reply with quote



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I slugged the barrel and it's a 10.75. I'll check case dimensions after fireforming. I use 10-11 grains of Bullseye topped off with cream of Wheat and a .22 patch, bang=case.

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Carlos
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:26 am  Reply with quote



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I love Drillings. Unfortunately I only have two O/Us, a Brno 304 and a Valmet .222/12ga, and two cape guns, a 12.7 x 44R and a 9.5 x 57R both with 16 guage.

There is an option for loading 2.5 " hulls with a regular press that doesn't require any additional equipment; The Hartin crimp!

http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15465&highlight=hartin
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