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Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 41 Location: Tor.Ont.Canada

Anyone try them before any feed back thanks.

Member Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 3438 Location: Illinois

Two things to consider--the primers have a thicker cup(harder to ignite) and are not standard 209 size if you intend to reload-will have to use Nobles.

Joined: 23 Apr 2010 Posts: 13

I use them all the time, except in the winter, they are a little cooler than WW209's and get a little poofy when the temps drop below 20 degrees. As said before, they are larger than 209's and you can't go back and forth between the two. I have never had problems with the hardness, of the cup.

cdb

My experience has been the same as above. I don't like them in the winter, a bit weak, and haven't noticed them to be any harder.

Jason

Jeez, What part of West VA. are you from that you notice it's cold enough to affect your primer. Primer is "cooler" you say. Hell's bells, you guys are sensitive on a whole 'nother level. This is kinda like the Bud, Pabst, Schlitz, Miller, Grainbelt, Heilman's, Blatz, Goetz, Schlitz and Hamm's blindfold test. I'll blindfold you and all else the same, you tell me what primer you're firing! Laughing

Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 1358 Location: Twin Cities, MN

SS is just all wound up because of our weather. It's been in the 30s and 40s lately and this heat is making us all a little wonky. This is traditionally our coldest time of the year and we don't know what to do without the weather to complain about. I don't even know where I left my gloves as I haven't needed them for over a week!
Going to go cool off,
Jeff

Hey JNW -- Guys at the hardware store were wearing shorts and cut-offs today -- and that is no sht Sherlock!!! Gee Whillakers! I should have taken photos, but I didn't want to seem "Not Minnesota Nice". Crazy weather, eh (Oh wait a minute, that's further north sort of talk). Anyway, I can't wait till it's cold enough to stunt the ignition of my freshly installed NobelSport primers -- I'd be thrilled as hell to get some of of those "poofy" shots! And you know its those below +30F temps that really affect the hardness and modulus of elasticity of those primer cups. Time to put in the special winter springs in the locks of my guns -- it's a Minnesota secret, just like chains on the car, eh!

Had the pleasure of missing my connecting flight last Sunday due to weather and ended up staying in Minneapolis for the night on my way to Vegas. I had on a blazer and I figured 'Oh crap I am going to freeze.' But it was actually in the 30's???!!!

What's up with that? I thought you Minnesota folks would be coved up with snow with 'freezing your butt off cold'. Then I came back through this past Saturday and it was still warm.

Joined: 28 Aug 2014 Posts: 924 Location: Eastern Tennessee

For the last 18 months I have accessed each week as helping or hurting the pheasant population. It's been easy living for ring neck lately! I had to let the boy make mud angels this week!

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2346 Location: West MI

Could it be that cdb1097 means the recipe all together using a lower powered or "cool/cold" primer isn't working as well in the cold? I know when I sub a CC109 (cooler/lower powered) primer in a W209 recipe mid winter the shells sound noticably different, my leads have to increase and there is a lot of unburned powder in the barrels.

Joined: 11 Feb 2012 Posts: 68 Location: Olympia WA

I have been through about 4000 of them now and look forward to the end of them. I had several miss fires at the range. One guy asked if I was using Nobels and I said yes and he told me to toss the ones out that didnt have the red dot. I have not had any miss fires since and I toss out 3 to 5 per hundred.

I think I will go back to Cheddites on my next case. I dont have any cold weather issues here at least not enough to worry about.

I've been through about 15K NobelSports without a single misfire. I don't shoot in really cold weather but my loads with NobelSports have worked down to 25 degrees with no pooky sounding loads.

Every one of the NobelSports with the missing red cover have fired. I just don't use the primers with the missing cover with fine ball powders (as recommended since I started reloading in 1973) - this means that I pull them when I load MP300 in my .410 loads and use them in my 12, 16, 20, 24 and 28 gauge loads - again, as I said, with nary a misfire.

I don't use Cheddites because they pierce in several of my guns sending hot gases to the firing pins and around them into the action. No other primer has pierced in any of my guns.

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 817

I shot them last year at the grand. ( 16ga ). They were 1-1/16 oz. did not like them. The hulls are a bit shorter than cheddite's.