16ga.com ~ View topic - Blue Peters hulls (12) & older Federal (16) hulls

Joined: 12 Sep 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Maine

I came into some blue Peters 12 ga hulls, plastic, and some older purple Federal 16 ga hulls - ribbed plastic.

As to the Peters, does anyone know whether those take 209-series primers or the *57 series? Ideas as to reloading w/ 7/8 oz?

As to the Federals, are those the wound paper base wad hulls? How many reloads can I expect to get out of them?

Also, a bit OT, seeing Green Dot and Unique show up as "in stock" on various sites.

*Last edited by skeettx on Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:46 pm; edited 1 time in total*

The Peters Blue Magic hulls use the 209 primer
The Peters All American use the 209 primer
The Peters hulls with the black or white plastic base wed use the 209 primer.
The OLD Peters hulls with the saw dust base wad use the *57 primers.

If Blue Magic you can use the same loads as Win AA.

The All American have a very tall base wad and I use the 1 ounce wad to load 7/8 ounce loads.

What hull do you have?

Mike

The feds will last a fair number of loadings. If the heads are brass they will eventually split. if your sizer is a ring that pushes down to the base the rims will become oversize and not chamber. the collet type Mec sizer is the way to go.For years I have heard concerns about the rolled paper wad coming loose and creating a barrel obstruction. I used the 12ga version of this hull for dove hunting in AZ. I used hundreds of hulls over and over again and again. untill the crimps were so burned that they would not crimp any longer. I never had a base wad loosen and fall out in the ten years I hunted there.

If All American , I would toss em quick . Back in their day , they set the all time blown barrel record in this area . Base wads popping out of even factory loads . A whole barrel full of trashed single barrels kept as the trophies !

Joined: 12 Sep 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Maine

If they are like this, you can use the Win AA data

Get that data here, there is LOTS

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/recipedetail.aspx?shotype=&weight=0.875&weightdis=7%2f8&shellid=492&gtypeid=3&gauge=12

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun

Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Posts: 312 Location: Western Wisconsin

Wow, Mile, thanks! I have a bunch of hose and have been loading them with Rem STS data! Only loading 3/4oz out of them at a relatively low pressure, but had no idea they needed the Win data. Appreciate the info!

I also have beer cases full of the Peters hulls and have been using STS data to load them. This is the first time I've heard that you can use AA data. Looking at the design of these, they compare to the old Compression formed. I don't know why you couldn't use either sets of data.

Joined: 21 May 2010 Posts: 603 Location: Victoria BC Canada

Joined: 12 Sep 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Maine

D-I-M ... as you load these , check them after the final crimp at the brass . The 20's used to split there from the compression of crimping and are diff to chamber . I believe I had some 12's do this , but A-D-D doesn't let me remember ! You'll know if it does it .

The original smooth sided Peters Blue Magic hulls from the 1980's were the forerunners of the Remington Premier and later STS compression formed (one piece) hulls. They were far superior to the first Remington ribbed translucent green compression formed hulls (RXP target hulls I think?) Blue Magics could be reloaded at least 6 times and sometimes far more before the mouths split. The Remington RXP hulls weren't nearly as tough.

The new Remington STS hulls can't hold a candle to the long discontinued Blue Magic and original medium green Premiers. I think the Remington bean counters got into the act again here and had the STS hulls "El Cheapoed" to force increased sales of their factory premium???? grade ammo. It's a case of "too good is not good for the bottom line". Bean counters suck. Crying or Very sad