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Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1308 Location: Western WA

Anyone here know a way to fit 1 1/8 oz into a 2 1/2 in. hull?

Thx,

Brewster

Card and fiber wads.

Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 1460 Location: Eagle, Nebraska

Roll crimp

Get a 12 gauge for that load??

for game or target?

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1308 Location: Western WA

Lead #4 for phez

It would not be an appropriate load for that. It might make a good spreader load with #7 for very close shots. An ounce of #6 is very good at standard ranges.

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1308 Location: Western WA

A buddy gave me 5 lbs of leftover #4, and it's going to be sent out of the muzzle of my Browning. But an ounce of #4 is not a terribly practical load so 1 1/8 oz is the best we can do with it.

Brewster

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2346 Location: West MI

all good info so far. I will add; stripping the petals off a wad creating a brush wad will allow more shot volume all else being equal. A rough test on my bench allowed ~1/4oz more of #4 lead in a homemade SG16 brush wad. Also "breaking the legs" on a wad w/a little extra seating pressure will create more space as well.

Wasn't there a thread about how shooting over length shells in a short chambered gun was pretty much a non-issue??

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 863 Location: NoDak

Hi, here's a thread from the DGBBS on shooting 2 3/4" in 2 1/2" chambers, long, but good:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=35050&page=1

I myself do shoot 2 3/4" low pressure loads in my 2 1/2" guns. I reload them in the 6500psi range. Never had an issue or problem. All the hulls are fully opened after being fired. No ragged mouths on the hull etc. If you keep the pressures down, you should be fine.

Good Luck!

Greg

Just trim to 2 9/16 and use exactly the same load as in 2 3/4 inchers, except finish with the Hartin crimp. Hell, why not put in 1 1/4 ounce and get that pellet count up there -- you're shooting a hell-for-stout gun, it's no problem.

Are you sure your chambers are 2 1/2? Most likely they are 2 9/16 or 65 mm in your old Browning. Another 16th gives you plenty to make a Hartin crimp. Start with good once-fired hulls that were factory loaded -- they have the best crimp memory, and that helps with the Hartin crimp, as the loaded shell length is the same as it was when it was a 2 3/4 incher -- i.e. the shoulder winds up in the same position as in the original load. That's harder to do with a new hull with no crimp memory.

I am thinking that the SG-16 short with the pettals pulled off and 22grns of Longshot might accomadate 1.125oz load if you roll crimp it. that is the load I use for #6 out of a 2.75" hull and IC choke for grouse. I have to use a wool filler with the standard SG-16 in this load so it may fit in a 65mm hull.

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1308 Location: Western WA

It's a 65mm chamber. 70mm rounds will chamber but not eject (how do I know that?)

Sounds like I need to undertake a crimping project. It may have to wait until after bird season.

At least I will have a fresh reply to "What are you doing down there?"

Brewster.

Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 173 Location: S. E. Arizona

I wonder why so many people try to stuff an anti-aircraft load into a shotshell for shooting pheasants? An ounce of sixes is deadly out to 40 yards… which aught to be considered about max range for shooting ditch chickens.

Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 1308 Location: Western WA

Notwithstanding chukermans (possibly valid) scorn, we will proceed with 1 1/8 in a cut down black Rem hull with the 'Hartin' crimp which looks to be a very practical solution.

We note this because our first attempt with 1 1/8 oz resulted in a perfect crimp except it had a great big hole in the middle and all the shot rolled out. No problem, just block the hole with a piece of card! What a cool idea, wish I thought of it.

This whole 2 1/2" thing is kind of getting a bit out of hand except that old Browning has such great balance and practically zero recoil (ok I would definitely not hold it against my nose) and I just have to keep shooting it.

Brewster