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eajusc
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:27 pm  Reply with quote



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http://www.orvis.com/s/used-side-by-side-shotguns/249?dir_id=1089&group_id=28824&cat_id=15480

The above is a link to Orvis' "Fine Consignment" page. If you scroll down to the 16 gauge section, there are two guns listed. I am curious about the Armstrong Boxlock.

I'm from England (though live in the US now) and Armstrong is not a company that I've heard of. Does anyone have any additional information on them? My google search hasn't turned up much information!

Just having started my own business, I'm not about to buy it (my wife wouldn't be too pleased) but it seems to be a good looking SxS for anyone that may be interested!
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Lloyd3
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:36 pm  Reply with quote



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Looks like a nice English 16 and for a good price. I didn't see a weight, but the dimensions sound good. If the barrels are also good it's almost a no-brainer. The gun may say Armstrong, but it was likely built by Webley & Scott.

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eajusc
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:02 pm  Reply with quote



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From what I've found Armstrong & Co. was based in Newcastle (hence the lower price I would imagine) and ceased operating around 1917--that's all I've been able to find out about them though.

Lloyd3--curious as to why you think it was likely manufactured by Webley & Scott?
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Lloyd3
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:49 pm  Reply with quote



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Well....they provided the lion's share of in-the-white A&D boxlock guns to the trades, where they were then finished and the final retailer's name was added. My first look at the Orvis photography today had me thinking W&S, but after looking again at it on my own machine at home, I think the toplever might be a Greener design, and that opens it up a bit. No matter, still a decent gun for the money (provided the weight isn't excessive and the tubes are sound).

I also have it's near twin (w/ W. Richards marked on the action). That gun weighs 5lbs 14 (w/ejectors). The wood is a bit more figured and the engraving might have slightly more coverage, but I paid $4K for it and have never looked back. Easily the best grouse gun I've ever shot or owned.


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eajusc
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:55 pm  Reply with quote



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Well, I learn something new everyday! Thanks, for the info, Lloyd!
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Lloyd3
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:10 pm  Reply with quote



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Glad to be of service!

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Lloyd3
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:59 pm  Reply with quote



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Great article by Mr. Hadoke on the subject. His book on boxlocks is the only one of it's kind.

http://www.vintageguns.co.uk/articles/provincial-boxlocks/

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:06 am  Reply with quote



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I looked at an Armstrong marked Rook rifle to purchase that was definitely W & S but didn't buy it, chamber was bad. As Lloyd mentioned they provided to about every major and minor maker.

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