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morngstar
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:55 am  Reply with quote
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I found a 16ga side by side with 30 inch barrels for sale for $500.00. It is very used but also in excellent condition. It looks to have false side plates. The only marking is R 4 and P.T.C.A. Anybody know anything about PTCA? Thanks

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1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
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skeettx
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:11 am  Reply with quote
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Sure would help to see the proof marks
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morngstar
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:44 pm  Reply with quote
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It had no no proof marks, no choke marking, no maker, and no import marking. T barrel was marked 16 Gauge. The lug connecting the barrel to the receiver had the serial #, "P.T.C.A. and R 4. The receiver also had the serial number. That is it for marking. I have never seen a gun with less info.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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morngstar
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:54 am  Reply with quote
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The serial number is on the flats and inside the fore arm. It is similar to the one in this GB sale except the one I found has a round knob with no end cap on the grip.

I have no pics but found this for show and ask:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/580919087

Its a handsome gun with vibrant case colors.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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rudolph31
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:30 am  Reply with quote
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I don't think those are false side plates as they have pins and screws in them. I think this gun is a genuine side lock. If so, beware of cracks in the thin parts of the stock.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:05 am  Reply with quote



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The gun is a "trade branded" Crescent from the later 1930s after Crescent-Davis Arms Corp. had failed and the remains were moved to the J. Stevens Arms Co. factory at Chicopee Falls, Mass. Never saw England or Europe, unless some GI took it there long after it was made.

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morngstar
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:05 pm  Reply with quote
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Somebody did a resto on it. The checkering was sharp, the case coloring was very loud, and the stock looked too clean.

I passed on it. It's at Cabelas in Billings MT if anybody has to have it.

Thanks for the info.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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