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jsorvik
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:32 am  Reply with quote



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I ran into this Italian O/U at a lgs. It is labeled as a 16 gauge (and to the eye looked like one), but when I got home and studied the pictures I took, it looked like 184 was stamped on both barrels. To me that says this is bored as a 12 gauge, right?

If it is a 16, is the price of $319 reasonable?

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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:49 am  Reply with quote



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Short answer: yeah.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=252588&start=0

http://www.armeriashop.it/en/armory/used-weapons/smooth-bore/sovrapposto-cal-12-cerrai-piccinali.2.31.1280.gp.9988.uw.aspx

http://www.iltiro.com/mercatino/mercatino_armi_usate.php?annunci_armi_usate=ultimi_annunci&c1=1&c2=2&ida=84060

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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:00 am  Reply with quote



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I don't read much Italian but it looks like they have a site dedicated to the 16 ga: http://www.calibro16.it/annunci.php?idn=56

http://www.calibro16.it/pagina.php?idp=6

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16gaugeguy
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:32 pm  Reply with quote
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jsorvik wrote:
I ran into this Italian O/U at a lgs. It is labeled as a 16 gauge (and to the eye looked like one), but when I got home and studied the pictures I took, it looked like 184 was stamped on both barrels. To me that says this is bored as a 12 gauge, right?

If it is a 16, is the price of $319 reasonable?

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If you mean 18.4 instead of 184, then yes it's a 12 ga.. 18.4mm equals .730".

As far as who actually manufactured the gun, it looks like a Beretta to my eyes. Beretta did a lot of contract production for private labels back in the day before there was a Beretta USA. They still might for European markets.
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skeettx
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:37 pm  Reply with quote
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Come on, will a 12 gauge snap cap go in the chamber??

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jsorvik
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:59 pm  Reply with quote



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Went back to try the "snap cap" test on Monday and it was sold. Never got to try it out. . . I was confused, because it was marked on the tag as 16 gauge, LOOKED like a 16 gauge, but the barrels sure appeared to be stamped 18.4 (as you can see in the pictures).

Oh well, it is a mystery that will never be known. . . by me anyway.
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16gaugeguy
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:15 am  Reply with quote
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If the gun was truely mis-labeled and you are still interested, then you might see it on the rack again in a while. I'd check back w/ the shop owner before giving up.

So it's not a 16. Nothing wrong w/ a light weight 12 ga O/U for upland birds. 12 ga. 7/8 to 1-1/2 ounce loads are not hard to find or to reload.

Okay, I'm being a heretic. So what!!! Laughing
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double vision
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:37 pm  Reply with quote
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I like the 12 gauge at least as well as the 16 (especially for pheasants) with no apologies. I could never commit to one gauge.

Anyway, the fellow who sold me my sweet 6 1/4 pound straight-stocked Merkel 200E 12 gauge had it sold to him by the shop as a 16. When he received it he quickly found out it was a 12 and called the shop owners. They were flabbergasted. Now it's mine!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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16gaugeguy
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Another fine example of one man's "flabbergasted" being another man's "gasterflabbered" Laughing

I trust it's a humdinger of a gun, but frankly, I've never heard a dinger hum. Has anyone?
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