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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ Birds around Midland Tx |
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Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:55 pm
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My son is working near Midland Texas and wondered if any of you guys know of the quail possibilities in the area? I'd like to drive out and get him in some birds. Thanks in advance. Alan |
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Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:27 pm
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Location: New Braunfels TX
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:10 am
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So, in Texas you need to pay $49 to hunt on Public (i.e. OUR) land?
What's up with that.
Matt |
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:43 am
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There is darn good hunting for scaled quail in New Mexico not far across the state line. I have spent a great number of hours chasing them there and Midland, Texas isn't very far away. |
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:00 pm
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:21 pm
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Like Mike stated, the land is owned by someone and the state leases it to allow hunters to use it. Otherwise you lease a ranch for hunting in TX and it's private. I pay $5200 a year for my quail lease in Kent Co. TX. That's a full season lease (end of Oct. to the end of Feb) that is rare because in TX deer is king. You'll pay about half that for a after deer season quail lease (Jan-Feb)
So $49 aint so much is it |
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:56 pm
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$5200! I guess it's like going to Congress: bribery is king. |
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:46 pm
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BUT what you need to understand as to how many sections are being discussed
AND that might be private information
Mike |
Last edited by skeettx on Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:43 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:41 am
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What I do understand is that I find no honor in turning a man away because he is poor. My folks never did. |
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:53 am
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Well, that's an eye opener. Here in Nevada it's pretty much all open public land.
Although in the southern part of the state bird options are limited to Gambles quail.
And the 10+ year drought has made hunting a poor proposition.
Matt |
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:13 am
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WyoChukar wrote: |
$5200! I guess it's like going to Congress: bribery is king.
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Yes but, on public lands there are many hunters and they are out often.
If you pay the Texas private lease price you should get exclusive hunting rights, (be sure and check before signing). So you don't bump into other hunters and the birds and deer are thicker and not as wild.
In Texas it's a rich mans hunting paradise. |
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:09 am
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I'm sure Skeettx may elaborate more on what I am going to say but here goes.
The reason Texas has very little U.S. Gov't land is that when they joined the United States they were in fact a country in their own right, having won independence from Mexico in the battle of San Jacinto.
They didn't have to cede their land to a Federal gov't.
So, other than land ceded to railroads for right away, most of Texas remained in the hands of private citizens.
As far as I am concerned, what a man does with his property is his business .
I would rather have it that way, than like Wyoming where the U.S. Gov't owns approx 50% of the land, and we are subject to all the crazy regulations that the tree huggers in Washington, D.C can conjur up on any given session of Congress.
Dale |
Last edited by Cheyenne08 on Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:17 pm; edited 1 time in total _________________ One man with courage makes a majority.
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:43 pm
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YUP and with LOTS more population than many Western states,
The landowner must us common sense in who they let on,
PLUS many use the hunting lease to pay the land taxes.
Mike
PS FUN READING
There is NO BLM land in Texas
https://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/socioeconomic/activities/recreation.html |
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:16 pm
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Public land is a double edged sword for sure, but that land belongs to each and every one of us and helps ensure that the future generations will have hunting for the general public. Federal land has more generous rules than state trust lands in Wyoming (most are closed to motorized access or camping and are treated as private land if cultivated).
Bear this in mind: a recent study concerning people who did hunt but no longer do hunt revealed that over half who were still physically able to hunt cited cost and land access as the reason they quit. Tree huggers are irrelevant, we are killing our own sport with greed in a variety of forms.
I agree that a man has every right to do as he sees fit with his own land. But like all rights, responsibilities are included. Those charging the public out of a sport are sealing their grand children's fate. Back to the aristocratic ways of jolly old England we are headed.
Anyway, enough hijacking of the original topic. I sent pertinent information to cowdoc87 in a pm that will provide a good alternative and fulfilled an ongoing urge to be helpful. |
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:37 pm
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WyoChukar, I have to disagree with your opinion, but respectfully so.
Dale |
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