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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ 1 oz. 5's too thin? |
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:01 am
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I'm considering loading up some lead 2.5" 1oz #5's for chukars for my 2.5" husky, but I'm a bit concerned that the pattern will be too thin at range. I've never used less than a 1 1 /8oz #5 load before. Does anyone have any experience with 1 oz 5's, good, bad or indifferent? |
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:02 am
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I forgot to mention, the gun is choked ic/xf. |
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:45 pm
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In numerous hunts in SD, we have used 1 oz #5's out of our 20 gauges and never had a problem on roosters. Should work for you. |
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:03 pm
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:03 pm
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I have used 1 oz and 1 1/16oz #5's in short chamber Parker to the dismay of a lot of roosters |
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:29 pm
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I've hand loaded 1 oz of #5's and used 1 oz #5 RST loads on late winter pheasants in SD and have no complaints. Both the hand loads and the RST's have worked well for me. |
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:20 am
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Mark, what is the load recipie you are using? Just curious, and will file it in my 2 1/2" load notebook.
At a recent gun show, picked up 2 boxes of old Reminton 1 oz of 4's for cheap. Going to hold on to those for use on wild pheasants. |
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Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:58 am
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I have used 1 ounce loads of #5 (RST) and even handloaded #4's to great effect in 2-1/2" guns that have at least Modified choke. In my 20 gauge IC/M Ruger, I killed bushels of birds with 5's and 6's in one ounce loads. These were mostly within 25 to 30 yards and that is the key with the open choke.
I could use some 2-1/2 recipes for one ounce with SG 16 wads if you have any. I do have the low pressure 16 ga spreadsheets. |
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Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:33 pm
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For my 1oz hunting loads, I'm using roll crimped 2.5" cheddite hulls, 1oz., SG16, 22gr Longshot, 6k psi, 1200 fps. |
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Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:36 pm
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1 oz. is fine for chukars. #5 is not what I would consider a good choice. Sparse patterns for such a small bird? Yes. I am not even happy with 6's; I consistently get more cripples with #6 than with #7 1/2 and it's not like I don't shoot the little buggers on a regular basis. For long shots with a 16 bore I reload #7.
I am snowshoeing in just to get to the canyon I will hunt tomorrow and then hiking a mile on the south slope from there. With that much effort, I won't be carrying 6's or 5's. Save the #5 for pheasants and prairie grouse where it excels. |
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Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:28 pm
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I think that would be perfect! |
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Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:49 am
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1 oz. of #5 bismuth.
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Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:26 am
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I might add that I killed 3 sandhill cranes one day using a 16 gauge loaded with 1 ounce bismuth #6 shot. They were all 30 to 35 yards and came down dead. |
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm
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I have always done well on chukars with 1 oz. of 6's or 7s. I don't think you need 5s at all. I Used to use 5s for bay shooting canvas backs at extended ranges and they worked well for that... with 1-3/8 oz. of shot. |
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:28 pm
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Chukarman wrote: |
I have always done well on chukars with 1 oz. of 6's or 7s. I don't think you need 5s at all. I Used to use 5s for bay shooting canvas backs at extended ranges and they worked well for that... with 1-3/8 oz. of shot.
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I normally use 6's too, but the few times I've used 5's, they really hammer 'em. The main issue is pattern density. My main chukar gun is choked m/xf, which helps. |
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