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jrothWA
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:54 am  Reply with quote



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Local shop has a Fox Model B, not sure where to view the SN, but priced for $360, ish.

Barrel length about 26" will measure it on next visit.

How to read any choke marking?

Thanks.
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Riflemeister
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:53 am  Reply with quote
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The price is about right for one in average condition. There were no serial numbers on them before 1968. It is basically a Stevens 311 gussied up a bit. It is in no way related to an A H Fox except in name after Savage bought the rights to the name and continued to build the real Fox for a few years. Some people love the Fox B, if you are one of them, it's a good buy, but remember it's not a real Fox.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:01 am  Reply with quote
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26” barrels should be ic/mod. The model B tends to balance and point better than the 311. Especially the early ones with the game scene on. The bottom of the receiver, at least that’s been my gathering form handling them over the years.

$360 is very fair price for a gun shop, unless it’s low condition.

28” barrels came f/m from the factory. Sounds like a good back up/rainy day gun or entry sxs for a decent deal...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:20 am  Reply with quote
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Riflemeister wrote:
... It is basically a Stevens 311 gussied up a bit. It is in no way related to an A H Fox except in name after Savage bought the rights to the name and continued to build the real Fox for a few years. Some people love the Fox B, if you are one of them, it's a good buy, but remember it's not a real Fox.


You're right about most of it, but don't let Researcher catch you repeating the first part Very Happy !

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:11 am  Reply with quote
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There should be a letter stamp on the fore end iron and receiver that is the date code for the year of manufacture as well.
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Built like a tank. Quite reliable.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:04 pm  Reply with quote



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There was no Stevens Model 311 when Savage Arms Corp. introduced the Fox Model B. There was a Springfield No. 311 but it was the cheapest version of the guns built on the older J. Stevens Arms Co.'s G.S. Lewis patent action with coil-spring driven strikers.

Fox Model B – The Fox Model B in 12-, 16- and 20-gauges was introduced by a flyer inserted in some of Savage’s 1939 Fox catalogues –



and with the .410-bore added was included in the 1940 Fox catalogue put out by Savage.



The 1940 retail price was $25. The Model B was offered in 12-, 16-, and 20-gauges and .410-bore. Pre-WW-II guns had frames with a black gun-metal finish. The Fox Model B shared many parts with Savage’s Stevens-built 5100 action doubles, Stevens No. 530 and several Springfield models. Essentially the internal parts of a Stevens No. 530 put in a somewhat nicer profiled and decorated frame, with a bit nicer stock and forearm. By January 22, 1945, the retail price of the Model B was up to $34.50. Between 1946 and 1947, Savage Arms Corp. left Utica, NY, and consolidated their gun making operations at their old J. Stevens factories in Chicopee Falls, Mass. In the 1947 Savage-Stevens-Fox-Springfield catalog the frame was listed as case hardened.

Through the 1954 catalogue the Model B remained a double trigger, plain extractor, slim forearm utility gun. In the 1955 catalogue Savage added a Model BST which got a non-selective single trigger and a beavertail forearm. The offerings were the same for 1956 thru 1958.

By the 1960 catalogue the B and the BST got ventilated ribs. Between the 1960 and 1961 catalogues, Savage/Stevens/Fox moved from Chicopee Falls to the new factory at Westfield, Mass. There were no changes in the 1961 catalogue.

For 1962 a B De Luxe in 12-gauge was added with a satin chrome receiver, white-line grip cap and butt plate, checkered side panels, beavertail, ventilated rib, and gold plated non-selective single trigger. They also gold plated the trigger on the BST. There were no changes for 1963.

For 1964 the De Luxe became the BDE, and included automatic ejectors, and also was available in 20-gauge chambered for 3-inch shells. The B and BST remained unchanged.

For 1965 the B and BST 20-gauges got 3-inch chambers.

For 1966 the satin chrome BDE was gone. There was a BSE with ejectors, non-selective single trigger, satin black finish, white-line butt plate and grip cap, beavertail and ventilated rib. The Model B had double triggers, was case hardened, had a ventilated rib, and now a beavertail. Both guns now featured impressed stamped checkering. For 1967, 8, 9 and 1970 the offerings were the same. The gun control act of 1968 required Savage to start putting serial numbers on these guns.

By 1971 there was a gun called the Savage 550 which was just like the BSE but had a case hardened receiver, and was offered in 12- and 20-gauges. The text said it had precisely engineered barrels resulting in perfect balance. In the picture it appears to be a mono-bloc design?!? Also grip caps are gone from the B and BSE. Offerings for 1972 were the same – the 550 listed at $174.95, the B-SE listed at $164.95, and the B listed at $139.95.

By 1973, the BSE and 16-gauges are gone, but there is a 24-inch barrel B in 12-gauge and 20-gauge, both with 3-inch chambers.

For 1974 the Savage 550 is gone and the B-SE is back. The B-SE 12-gauge has 2 ¾ inch chambers and the 12-gauge B and 24” Fox B have 3-inch chambers. All the 20-gauge and .410-bore are 3-inch chambered. No changes for 1975, 6, 7, or 8. For 1979 the grip caps are back and the double triggered B is offered with ejectors as the BE.

For 1980, cut checkering is back, but the 24-inch barrel offerings are gone – B, BE and B-SE. In 1981 the BE was gone, but the FA-1 and the FP-1 Fox autoloader and pump appeared. For 1982 the Fox offerings were B, B-SE, FA-1 and FP-1.

For 1983 the only Fox offering was the B-SE. The B-SE remained through the 1987 catalogue when its list price was $525. By the 1988 catalogue the Fox name was gone.

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