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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Fiber wads |
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:25 pm
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:08 pm
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"pre-lubed". Does that have an effect on powder in shotshell loads?? Gil |
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:30 pm
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:51 pm
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Skeetx have you used those yet?
If so, in paper, plastic or brass hulls? |
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:56 pm
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No, I use Alcan All brass hulls, or Magtech hulls or RST paper hulls or plastic for 2 1/2 ammo, but I shoot sooooo many that I use regular wads.
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:39 am
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In using fiber wads with nitro cards rather than plastic gas seals in loading brass hulls, I understand using Testors's cement to help secure the OSC after loading the hull. I have done so with plastic wads successfully. The question is in seating the cards and fiber wads. I understand that they must be seated under 30-40 lbs. pressure. How does one insure that the pressure remains after removing the seating rod and gluing in the OSC? |
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:26 pm
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Gil S,
It won’t stay, but that isn’t an issue. Apply the amount wad pressure and finish the load. It will be fine.
You are applying the wad pressure to be certain that the wads are firmly seated on the powder, with no air gaps. That keeps the powder tight against the primer. How much pressure the wad exerts on the powder does not change the ballistics. |
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:30 am
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Here in the following is a mistake I made with the ox-yoke lubed wads. I had loaded ten brass shells and foolishly left them in a hot shed during the summer. When it was time to fire them, they were all duds. I took them apart and found the wax had soaked past the nitro card and into the powder and primer. I had them standing upright during the time in the shed. I remember the old alcan waxed wads only were waxed around the circumference, while the ox-yoke are infused with lubricant. I have not made that mistake again since that episode. |
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:55 am
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The only time that I use lubed wads, is when I load blackpowder for my Damascus barrels. It really helps to keep the fouling soft. I do use fiber wads for slug loads in my nitro proofed guns but don't bother lubing them. |
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:01 am
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What do you lube the fiber wads with? |
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:48 am
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JoseBob wrote: |
What do you lube the fiber wads with?
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I use 60/40 Crisco and beeswax. I use the same basic formula for felt wads in my BP revolvers although I tend to stiffen up the lube for those.
Melt in a double boiler and dip the bas of the wad in it. Capillary action draws the lube into the wad. Let it cool and load them up. MUCH cheaper than the ready mades. |
_________________ "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour. Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." |
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:55 pm
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I now have a full box of Alcan Feltan-Bluestreak 16 ga. wads. Does the "lube" or wax loose effectiveness over the years or are they good to go after probably decades? I have the nitro cards as well and about 500 Cheddite 2.5" paper hulls. All I need now is a horse and buckboard to take me hunting. Gil |
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:02 pm
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Gil S,
Are you roll crimping those paper hulls to go with the horse and wagon theme?
Your wads might be just fine. I recently loaded some that had been misplaced for 20 years (in an unconditioned garage) and they worked fine. Mine were from Track of the Wolf, not Bluestreak...
--Doug |
_________________ An ounce of fives, the smell of nitro in paper hulls, wet gundog, and Hoppe's #9... |
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:12 pm
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Doug, roll crimping for sure. I won't get much reloading life out the paper hulls, but they sure look prettier after firing than a fired roll crimped plastic hull. Smell better, too. Gil |
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