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Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:24 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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Location: Minnesota
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Was the Rem 870 16 ga ever made on a 16 ga frame, as opposed to a 12 ga frame?
If so, how does one identify that gun?
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:33 am
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:51 am
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Location: Minnesota
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I’m done pursuing an 870 in 16 ga. |
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:44 pm
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Location: Central ND
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If you get an older 870, I don’t care what frame it is made on, it is a sweet shotgun.
I have one from 1962 and it handles better than any other pump that I own....and they are made on 16 gauge frames.
My 870 weighs 6 lbs. 14 oz. with a 28” plain barrel.
I shot this gun at an NSCA big blast event in Addieville RI a few years back and ended up getting a punch in the 12 ga. pump-gun side event. I couldn’t have done that with my Winchester M12 or my M37. |
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:16 pm
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Location: Orofino, Idaho
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Sorry, but I own both a M870 and a M31L in 16Ga. and the M31 receiver is significantly more 16 Ga. than than the M870. The older (1950's) M870 16 Ga.'s used left over M31 barrels and you can see the adjustment to the 12 Ga. receiver where the receiver meets the barrel.
Love them both, the beauty of the 870 Wingmaster is the streamlined design and it isn't a true 16 Ga. receiver. |
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I have more 16ga. shotguns than I need, but fewer than I want...At present: DeHaan S2, Remington M31L, Remington Wingmaster 870. |
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Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:34 pm
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Location: Medford Oregon
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| I know this is heresy with most "Remington experts", but if you read the history of the Remington 870, you'll find that it really is made on the "16 gauge frame"! After WWll Remington's new generation of long gun design kicked off with the Remington Model 48. All Remington's shotguns were subsequently based on this receiver/magazine design, even their pump and semi-auto rifles. The Remington 48 was originally built with a 12 gauge frame and a 16 gauge frame. When it came time to produce the 870, Remington elected to go with the 16 gauge sized frame for all three of their initial gauges! So, in fact, you can accurately say the 870 12 gauge is built on a 16 gauge receiver as is the 16 gauge. The later lightweight 20 gauges are actually built on 28/410 receivers. There are reports that the early 16 gauge and 20 gauge receivers were "slimmed down" from the 12 gauges as well. My 1954 vent ribbed, numbers matching 16 ga 870 also has a receiver that is .02" thinner than my 1959 12 gauge. |
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Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:13 pm
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Location: Clemson
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My favorite, lightest pump shotgun is indeed the Remington.... Model 31L in 16ga. It is the slickest, best made that I have used hunting. I own model 12's, model 37's, even a 16ga. Wingmaster , and the mod 31L is my personal pick as a hunting pump shotgun. These guns are used primarily for rabbit hunting. Order of preference- 31L, 37, 12 all in 16ga. I sold the Wingmaster to a friend who likes it better thanI did.
Just my thinking as regards slide action guns. Ken |
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Wed May 15, 2019 5:02 am
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Location: MISSOURI
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I have an older corncob Remington 16ga. 870.
It was my grandpa's.
It's the best pump action shotgun I've ever shot..
Still have it. |
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