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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ Webley & Scott |
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:12 am
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I found a 16 with some cast off and was wanting to know if these are good shotguns.It is a box lock ,greener cross bolt like my Sauer.Thanks for any info. |
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:47 am
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:42 am
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Joined: 17 Mar 2017
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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AC,
The original Classics are nice guns, I have no idea of the value modern day. However I would keep the original in my Grouse gun collection and use it for sure!
Pine Creek/Dave
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Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:26 pm
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Joined: 12 Sep 2010
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Location: Maine
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Aurelio Corso wrote: |
I found a 16 with some cast off and was wanting to know if these are good shotguns.It is a box lock ,greener cross bolt like my Sauer.Thanks for any info.
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In a sentence: "if it's been taken care of, definitely yes." |
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Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:18 am
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It’s a prewar sxs 6lbs.1ounce. |
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Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:44 am
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Joined: 12 Aug 2007
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Location: Northern Illinois
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Aurelio,
Webley & Scott made guns for many different companies and also sold them under their own name. The quality runs from decent to Best (equivalent to London best makers).
I have two Army & Navy 16 bore sidelocks and both were made by Webley & Scott. They are both well made guns and delivered in 1904 and 1907 and one is a higher grade than the other. Both are very nice examples with much original condition.
I would look for a gun with good original condition and well struck barrels with no pitting (external or internal). W&S also made a 700 series (postwar) that included 16’s but you more frequently find them in 12 and 20 bore. Often you can find them in near new condition.
Here is a link to an article on Webley & Scott 700 guns.
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=314656
An alternative to keep in mind:
Some of the Army & Navy boxlocks were made by Webley & Scott, but Osbourne and possibly others also made them. Usually an Army & Navy will sell for a little less money than a gun marked Webley & Scott, even if they are identical guns, made in the same period. Most of the A&N guns I see for sale were made in the early 1900’s. If you come across one you can send an e-mail to Glasgow and get info on when made, who purchased and sale price at the following address:
enquiries@archives.gla.ac.uk
Good Hunting,
Mike |
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Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:13 am
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Thanks for the great info. |
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:30 pm
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Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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Location: Texas Panhandle
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Webley & Scott were probably the most prolific maker of guns in England during the first half of the 20th century. I am of the opinion that at least 75% of the guns made in that country during that period were either made by them or parts were sourced from them. While there are probably several thousand names on English guns there were actually only a handful of makers producing them and either supplying guns in the white to smaller firms or completely finishing the guns and putting others names on them. One of the little secrets in England seems to be that some prestige London names actually began their lives in the W & S Birmingham factory. |
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:27 pm
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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I have an H. Atkin 12 ga. that is a rebadged W&S. As noted, the company furnished makers guns in the white and the second gunmaker finished it out. One design difference from other makers is that the hinge pin is integral to the action and is not removable or replaceable. However with the advent of TIG welding, any gun that is off face is easily repairable. It's not something to lose sleep over. Be sure the gun is on face, however. The most important aspect of a gun purchase is the quality and soundness of the barrels. Gil |
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:43 am
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Joined: 04 Nov 2019
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Location: Wyoming
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Aurelio Corso wrote: |
It’s a prewar sxs 6lbs.1ounce.
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I think I know the gun you were looking at, seemed to have gone for a great price. Did it end up at your house?? |
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Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:08 pm
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