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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ 16GA steel #7 for teal/waterfowl |
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Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:00 pm
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Joined: 27 Aug 2008
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Location: Austin, TX
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Does anyone know where i can purchase 16GA #7 steel for hunting teal in texas? Last time I made a purchase was from "Custom Ammo" in Palms, MI but they seem to have gone out of business.
Thanks,
Scott |
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Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:07 pm
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 203
Location: Southern California
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...I did a little looking for a commercially loaded 16ga Steel "Upland Load' a few weeks before Dove and didn't find anything, nor any Light Field non Toxic,in our size ,for that matter.
I hope someone here comes up with a lead, meanwhile,FWIW, Kent and BOSS fives work wonderfully on Cinnamons,and anything else out this way. |
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Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:03 pm
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Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 467
Location: SC PA
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Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:07 am
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Joined: 03 Sep 2014
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Location: Rochester, MN
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Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:42 am
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Joined: 07 Jun 2020
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I would not pursue a course with 20ga steel through gauge adapters in a vintage 16. The reason is potential leaking of the shot cup because the bore is not holding the shot cup closed as it would in a 16ga shell in a 16 bore.
Shell manufacturers learned and improved the wads from early steel loads. You would be passing on that improvement by shooting wads made for a smaller bore.
I have no problem with lead loads through adapters and have often used 410 adapters and even 28 gauge adapters, but with steel shot I would be more conservative.
Your best course of action for #7 steel is reloading. Better yet reloading #7 or 7 1/2 Bismuth. I realize it is harder to take that course, and slightly more expensive to go Bismuth, but that said after you factor in all the other costs of hunting, whether you spend .50 cents or 1.50 a shot won’t move the needle much. |
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Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:16 pm
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Joined: 26 Aug 2004
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Location: FL
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Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:03 pm
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Joined: 27 Aug 2008
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Location: Austin, TX
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Thanks all, I went with the #6 Boss, need 'em quick!
Cheers,
Scott |
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Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:05 pm
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Joined: 27 Aug 2008
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Location: Austin, TX
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Thanks all, I went with the #6 Boss, need 'em quick!
Cheers,
Scott |
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Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:08 pm
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Joined: 17 Mar 2017
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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John Singer,
The 16 gauge steel shot is out of stock, I am on the notification list, hope they arrive soon. Thanks for the info!
They will be great Grouse & Woodcock shells @ 15/16 oz.
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. smith Man |
_________________ "L.C. Smith America's Best" - John Houchins
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Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:09 pm
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Joined: 28 Mar 2010
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I can say from experience that you don't want to shoot steel 7's at anything other than targets. I shot them last year in a 12ga for clapper rails and besides a lot of tiny steel pellets in the meat, they didn't kill very well. A lot of crippled, heads up birds when we picked them up. 6's work much better and ducks are much tougher than rail birds. |
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Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:15 am
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Joined: 25 Jan 2014
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Location: MN
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I have only used #7 steel in 12 ga as swatter loads for downed ducks. They work extremely well for that. |
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Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:00 am
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Joined: 08 Feb 2009
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Location: Western WA
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I know this sounds a little extreme, but I’ve had excellent success with #2 steel on teal. The pattern stays tight and it really reaches out. It only takes one pellet, so it doesn’t mangle them.
B. |
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Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:52 am
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Joined: 03 Sep 2014
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Location: Rochester, MN
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Pine Creek/Dave wrote: |
John Singer,
The 16 gauge steel shot is out of stock, I am on the notification list, hope they arrive soon. Thanks for the info!
They will be great Grouse & Woodcock shells @ 15/16 oz.
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. smith Man
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Dave, it looks like that load is in stock at Midway USA.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1025692022 |
_________________ John Singer |
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Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:51 pm
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Joined: 17 Mar 2017
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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John S,
Thanks buddy I still have my Fiocchi still 7 so I am n good shape for now. Don't use very many of them, 20 gauge along Pine Creek for Wood Ducks they tend to last a long time.
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave |
_________________ "L.C. Smith America's Best" - John Houchins
Pine Creek Grouse Dog Trainers |
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Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:32 pm
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Joined: 03 Sep 2014
Posts: 398
Location: Rochester, MN
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Dave,
I feel that price ($1/round) is too rich for me.
I have shot several grouse with the 12 gauge version of that load. It works very well.
I reload for my 16 gauge guns. I have some 7/8 oz #6 steel and 1 oz #7.5 bismuth that I plan to use for ruffed grouse next fall. |
_________________ John Singer |
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