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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Loading herter hulls |
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Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:20 am
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I've always found it interesting that some hulls of the next larger bore can sometimes sleeve over the next smaller gauge, some oldschoolers I've known used a 12/10ga combo to carry blue tip matches in their kit bag.
In fact I've experimented using 12ga hulls stripped of their bases as 10ga steel wads. Actually works but needs further "messing around".
I also see the same buckling issue with the Herters, I've found that a Win 12ga AA hull (very tough/stiff plastic) cut to whatever length is needed works pretty well for supporting the 16ga hulls while crimping if buckling is an issue. |
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Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:03 am
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| Mark, if you make a larger diameter bushing...you can add it to the bottom of your crimp die with a split collar made from a piece of PVC (use two hose clamps). That's basically what I did when I used to load 3 1/2" 12 ga. shells. This way you don't need to slide it on and off of every single hull- speeds things up greatly since it is now part of the crimp die. |
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Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:34 am
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| Good idea Garhart!! |
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Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:56 pm
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I've used a 12ga-16ga hull combination for a match safe since I was in Boy Scouts.
Works. |
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Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:52 pm
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| The so called "short" version of SG 16 is super for 3/4 oz. and I even use it for 5/8 oz. in 2 1/2" Rems.
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Interesting, I find the SG16S (short) to actually have more capacity than the standard SG16. The short version has a single row of thin blades in the powder cup instead of all the nubbins which fill the cup in the standard version.
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Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:55 am
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[quote="Timn"]Ok I have several thousand 16ga herter hulls that I am starting to reload. What hulls are you guys using. Will be loading 1oz to 1 1/8 oz loads. I have green dot blue dot universal 20/28 powders. My thinking is I can use straight hull load data. Thanks Tim.[/quo
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I use 2o gr of 20/28 for 1oz. 1248 fps. Didncare for the rest after finding 20/28. |
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Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:07 am
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| I make 1oz RST equivalent loads with them, cutting to 2.5", roll crimp and 20gr universal. Great load that crushes targets and is deadly on birds. |
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Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:33 pm
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| Greendot Universal and 20/28 are good for 1oz loads and Bluedot will work for 1 1/8oz , yes straight wall data should work. |
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Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:01 pm
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Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:35 pm
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| Thanks Colonel |
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Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:13 am
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| MSM2019 wrote: |
Instead of cutting hulls down, I solved the hull crushing issue using a bushing at the final crimp die on my Sizemaster.
The dimensions:
O.D. - !.000"
I.D. - .740"
OAL- .495"
45 degree chamfer - .070" you need the chamfer or the bushing will interfere with the final crimp die.
MSM, Thanks for the info. Think I'll try that. Bil
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Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:43 pm
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| This seems like a good combination. Loading on a Sizemaster and Universal Charge bar dialed in for 7/8 oz of #8, Fiocchi primer, 16grns of Green Dot. Nice crimp, I’ll chrono of Saturday. |
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Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:44 pm
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| This seems like a good combination. Loading on a Sizemaster and Universal Charge bar dialed in for 7/8 oz of #8, Fiocchi primer, 16grns of Green Dot. Nice crimp, I’ll chrono of Saturday. |
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Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:44 am
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| don`t use hodgon data for universal, 21 gr is way too hot. 17 gr about right |
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