16ga.com ~ View topic - Picking up my new 2-inch gun today

Joined: 17 Jan 2014 Posts: 1717 Location: Denver, Colorado

After my mandatory 3-day wait of course.

A fellow clays shooter will be joining me and afterwards we'll be hitting Scheels for some target loads (he's a vet and gets a significant break there). Colorado taxes all firearms related things rather heavily (12%?) so every little bit helps.

If time allows, I be headed down to my old workplace to see if this dainty birdgun fits any of the old cases we still have at the shop. It'd be nice to be able to transport it this Fall in a more-secure setup.

Joined: 26 Apr 2010 Posts: 3307 Location: NCWa

Wow, Only 3 days wait?? The Communists in Washington State have the wait up to nearly 3 WEEKS.

Gentlemen,

You need to move out of those Communisg states, here in Pa we have no waiting period when purchasing long guns or ammo. We have had many NRA law suites here that helped our state walk the straight and narrow. We still do have a waiting period on hand guns however.

Lloyd,
Congrats on owning a fine 2" gun
all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

Member Joined: 30 Nov 2011 Posts: 1815 Location: Minnesota

Good for You! Hope it does well for you at the cabin. Grouse be afraid!

Joined: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 522 Location: South Eastern PA

Joined: 17 Jan 2014 Posts: 1717 Location: Denver, Colorado

From today's post over on the Doublegun BBs webpage''...

"The process to buy a gun in the Peoples Republic of Colorado finally completed yesterday. I made something of an event out of it and even picked up some target shells at the Scheels in C. Springs. The recent state tax on 4 flats of shells was almost $50 and they had to be removed from large cages by an employee with a key(!). God help us here.

This gun is in very good original shape but it is very plain. Only simple border engraving, no ejectors, unfigured wood and a thin bakelite butt plate. Because it has a Churchill rib, all of the data that would usually be there is found on the tubes beside it. And, after a very close examination, I also found the tiniest JA stamp up near the forend hook."

The JA is for Joseph Asbury, the actioner for most of the 2-inch guns made in Birmingham.

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Joined: 17 Jan 2014 Posts: 1717 Location: Denver, Colorado

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Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 542 Location: WI

I lived in the High Country of Colorado a long time ago. It was definitely a different time, and a different political climate. It was 1989 when I moved there from New Jermany, and the feeling of freedom was palpable all around me. I bought my first rifle there - I went to the gun counter in a hardware store. Picked out a plain Marlin 30AS 30-30 which was on sale. Came with Bushnell 3x9 scope, rings, hammer spur, and two boxes of shells (I went with the 150 grain) for $179.99, with free mounting and borescoping.

"I have to walk you to the register", which he did, and he set everything on the conveyor belt "have fun with it" and walked away. I wrote a check, put everything on the front seat of my car, and drove out of town a bit to the BLM land. It shot 1" groups at 100 yards, about 4" high and right, but easily and quickly dialed in. I never should have sold that gun; for a lever gun it was a tack driver.

Then, the news was the rise of the "telecommuter" - people from California moving to Colorado and phoning it to work, using a fax machine and the telephone to work remotely. Buying Ranchettes and working to turn Colorado into a new liberal Mecca.

"Crime is low, actually, but it will only get better once we get some gun control around here" was from an interview with a California ex-patriot (who had moved to the People's Republic of Boulder) in the local paper about the rise of the telecommuter and how the politics they brought with them were re-shaping Colorado, but not for the better.

Idiot, that's why crime is low - everyone has a gun, and pretty much everyone carries one, especially in the backcountry. That was the journalist's take.

The change was slow, but it turned the most favorite place I've ever lived into a place I would not want to live in again, even though the mountains and those high, lonely places call me back every single day. I miss it, but times have changed. If I may paraphrase Benjamin Franklin: Colorado sacrificed freedom for security, and in doing so received neither.

nj gsp,

Very good post!

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

Joined: 17 Jan 2014 Posts: 1717 Location: Denver, Colorado

Yeah...we used to refer to "the Peoples Republic of Boulder" now it seems to be the whole state.

I don't know how much longer I can last out here...

Lloyd3,

Elections matter Greatly! The liberals of CA have influenced your state government way to much, and brought their politics to CO.

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

Joined: 17 Jan 2014 Posts: 1717 Location: Denver, Colorado

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First things first, I have no love for black guns. Just because I own a few doesn't make me a fanboy. They are tools that can be used for rather critical things (hunting and self defense primarily). I have hunted a few times with one....no thanks. My traditional rifles seem to work much better for me in that role.

Colorado says that no more of these things can be sold or legally transferred here (post August 1st, 2026) because they have detachable magazines (they wanted to ban handguns with detachable magazines as well but couldn't make it stick this time around). I suspect that other states will try this next.

I strongly suspect that many of the members here also own guns such as this and for the same reasons that I do. We are not criminals (yet) for doing so.

I think the new laws here in Colorado (& perhaps elsewhere) and the whole concept behind them is unconstitutional, that it is an affront to the 2nd Amendment. The Supreme Court has recently told New Jersey that their version of this rule is clearly unconstitutional, but it appears so-far that they are ignoring that ruling.

God help us.

Make sure you vote your conscious this coming November.

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 231

My folks moved from Idaho to Colorado back in 1989/1990. It was a move from one very Red state to another very Red state back then. They did not notice a difference at all from one to the other.

But (as is happening in Idaho), locals took their freedom for granted, and didn’t really bother to get out and vote regularly, let alone get vocal and active locally.

And as the hordes from CA grew, the apapthy of the locals also grew, until, one day, they found themselves essentially outnumbered, and now also behind the political power curve. There are a lot of essential additional aspects to the story (immigration, legalization of marijuana), but it comes down to a lack of vigilance and apathy.

Just before my dad passed, we moved him out of the state so he could die in a free state, the same one he was born in. And now we’ve sold our farm ground in Colorado and 1031 exchanged it into farm ground in that same free state where dad was born and buried. It doesn’t pay to stay in a Socialist state, as we all learned during Covid, and as we see in the crime statistics.

As for the apathy, as I was telling my buddies 30 years ago, “you may not care about politics enough to get off your ass, but politics damn sure cares about YOU.”

8mmFan

Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 542 Location: WI

I remember one time I was pulled over in Colorado, around 1990 or 1991, the reason was that I had a tail light burned out. The officer walked up to my window, I had my hands on the wheel with my driver's license and registration in my fingers.

"Good evening officer, I have a handgun under my passenger seat, it is unloaded (meaning nothing in the chamber or under the hammer, although it had a full 15 round mag in it, which was the legal definition of "unloaded") and you have my permission to retrieve it and make it safe if you choose to."

"Thanks - passenger or driver's seat?"

"Passenger" I said.

"Please step out and go stand at the back of your car."

I did as asked, the officer retrieved my handgun, removed the magazine, verified there was nothing under the hammer, and placed both on the hood of my car.

"Wait here" she said, and walked back to her cruiser.

I stood at the back of the car, and she ran my plates and license as she was obligated to do. Then she came back up asked me if I knew why she pulled me over. "I have no idea."

And she said "Your left brake light is out."

You've got to be kidding me, I just replaced the right one this afternoon, I had no idea, I said.

She said when one goes, best to do them both. She offered to step on the brakes so I could see for myself. I agreed. She did. Sure enough, my left brake light was dark.

I'd bought a two pack, and I had the other in the glove box, so I asked if I could retrieve it. She said sure. She held her flashlight for me as I opened the trunk and replaced the burned out bulb.

"Thanks officer, I really appreciate it."

"No problem, happy to help. You can go retrieve your firearm, have a great night and be safe"

No ticket, no warning, just an officer being nice.

Somehow, I doubt that exchange would go the same way today if I still lived in Colorado...