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| < 16ga. Guns Wanted or For Sale ~ Winchester Model 12 Advice |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:58 pm
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| Need some advice.....I found a Model 12 16 gauge Full choke for $395, good condition. It's pre 1964, is it worth the $395? is that a good buy? |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:16 pm
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Yes a good buy if in decent shape, not a steal but a good buy IMO.
Is it a 2 3/4 Chambered gun ? |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:55 pm
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| postoak wrote: |
Is it a 2 3/4 Chambered gun ?
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I'm not sure actually....good question. I hope so. |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:20 pm
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2 3/4" will be stamped as such.
Rule of thumb: SN over 500k (actually a bit less, but depends on who you read) = 2 3/4".
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:48 pm
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| And don't be scared of 2 9/16 guns, many sources for short shells, and reloaders are sold every day. |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:10 pm
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| Hmm I have a Mec 600 jr, just need to get a set of 16 gauge dies for it. I'm sure it could be adjusted to do 2 9/16? |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:36 pm
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| Yes a 1/4 spacer is all you need, MEC even sells them. |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:26 pm
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Save on shipping and order anything else you may need at the same time  MEC is a great company but a little high when the S+h is added in  |
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Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:43 am
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| phynal wrote: |
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Need some advice.....I found a Model 12 16 gauge Full choke for $395, good condition. It's pre 1964, is it worth the $395? is that a good buy?
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First I'll make a disclaimer here, because this may not be correct for some foreign ammunition or some obscure brands (so use your own jusgement), but I understand that major American brands of 16-ga. ammunition use a shorter case than 2-3/4", so it can be fired in 2-9/16" guns safely. Suggest you fire a round of ammunition in question, in a 2-3/4" chambered gun and then measure the fired case. |
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Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:36 pm
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Four Squared
Your post made me wonder. So I measured some Winchester, Remington and Federal hulls. They measured 2.710 and 2.725 a little short. but not 2.5625 (2 9/16")
Remington did make a few game loads that were 67mm, I have a few of those hulls around here somewhere.
I have a Model 12 - 16 Gauge gun with a 2 9/16" chamber made in 1916. None of the true 2 3/4" hulls will eject regularly. the 67mm Remingtons did eject fine.
Just a little info. |
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