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Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 295 Location: Southern Ontario

So what would you guys pay for this? Choked skeet and mod. Assume 60's vintage. Has side clips, not so clear in pic's. Unknown belgian maker. Not quite a Belgian clunker though(?)

http://s984.photobucket.com/albums/ae325/Dolapsch/Belgian%20%20sxs/

Mainly for grouse and rabbit.

Don

Member Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 972 Location: Keller,TX

Assuming it's a 16, no more than $1K. Don't have enough info to give a more definitive assessment.

I would pay about $400 for that gun, assuming it's a no name guild gun in good mechanical condition with good barrels.

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 295 Location: Southern Ontario

He's asking $375. Admitts it's a no name Belgian, but a little higher quality then a clunker.

My 'new to hunting' partner has been hunting grouse with a 12ga. benelli pump. I thought this may be a good entry into an upland gun.

Don.

Buy it.

Dale

What 08 said!!!!! Very Happy

Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Boulder,Colorado

Yes, its worth the $375 asking price. I would pay maybe a little more, if I really liked the feel of it.

Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 596 Location: 17603

Don,
Belgian guild guns, especially those for the European market, are NOT clunkers IMO. I've got several SxS's from the 20's and 30's that are really well built, and excellent shooters, and for the price are miles ahead of anything else for good value. I'd stack 'em up against the "high priced spread" any day. They were copying the "British Best", and I find them light and lovely handling characteristics.
Looks to be an "f" date stamp for a build of 1927, can't quite make out the chamber code, probably 65mm, ez to lengthen to 2 3/4", nitro proof, probably choked full and fuller.
Looks to be in good condition, grab it! You won't be sorry.
Cheers,
R*2

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 295 Location: Southern Ontario

Thanks for the info guys. I did not mean to insult Belgian guns as clunkers. I just heard they produced so many guns, and some of them were(?) discribed as such. It sounds like this was not one of them.

I will enquire with him further.

Thank you,

Don.

Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 596 Location: 17603

zoli,
There were many so called "hardware guns" built in Belgium, I believe primarily pre WWI, that were cheap, and built to a price point. My take is that the Euro build post WWI guns are good, and possibly because of the historical stigma, are often undervalued on this continent. That being said, you must inspect the individual gun carefully. Barrels and bores are what you are primarily getting with a double. I like side clips, greener crossbolts and the double bite on the underlug. Make sure the lockup is tight with the forearm off, and the barrel/breech fit is good when closed. Have fun, you don't have to spend 1,000's to get a good double.
Cheers,
R*2

My first sxs was a belgian 16 double similar to the one pictured, and it was a very lively and effective bird killer. Good quality Belgian and French guns are highly undervalued in my opinion also.

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 295 Location: Southern Ontario

Thanks guys your opinions mean a lot.

The gun is from 1927 and nitro proofed. It would be for my new hunting partner. I just don'nt want to steer him in the wrong direction as he does not reload (well yet anyway). As long as Kent or rem's could be store bought and used in this gun.

Don.

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 295 Location: Southern Ontario

Ok, so according to the f stamp it would be made in 1927. Now the P with the star over it means it was inspected by Delcommune Adolphe from 1952 to 1960??

Any help?

My new partner carried my Laurona 16ga. and loved it. Apparently this is a 26" @ 5lbs 10 oz. Belgian.

I just need to make sure it shoots modern store bought ammo.

Don.