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Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:42 pm
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Looking at some Model 12's from the 20's & 30's with 2 9/16 inch chambers. Will these guns cycle modern 2 3/4 inch shells?
Rick |
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:00 pm
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My 16 gauge with the 2 9/16" chambers won't eject the 2 3/4" shells. I would assume that your 20 g. would behave the same. The ejection port is too short.
CH |
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:04 pm
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The 20s have a reputation for WORKING with 2 3/4 inch ammunition (my 2 1/2" 1913 gun does) while the 16s have a reputation for NOT WORKING with 2 3/4 inch ammunition.
Many have been worked on since then. You have to try it, I guess. |
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Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:18 am
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| Were most early 20ga M12's of the short chambered variety? My 1913 vintage 20ga is marked 2 3/4 inch. Bob |
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Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:52 pm
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Guess I didn't make my first post clear. I had been looking at some 16 ga. model 12's built in the 1920's & 1930's. I found a nice model 12 16 ga. built in the late 1940's chambered for 2 3/4 inch shells so I won't be having a problem with shell length. Thanks for the info anyway.
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Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:46 am
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Shortening the ejector about 1/8th" will help longer shells clear the port. I've shot 2 3/4" shells in my 1921 #12 for years and had few problems. In answer to Broco's post, many short chamber guns were sent back to Winchester fo have the chamber and port opened up for the longer shells. When this was done they were marked 2 3/4 near the ser #.
Bronco, if you get the chance to compare your #12 with a later one look closely at the front of the ejection port. There should be a small difference where it had been machined to open it up to accomodate the longer shells. |
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