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David
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:36 pm  Reply with quote
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Hello everyone, new to this site. Want to know if anybody has a reload for 16 ga. 2 1/2". I need to buy the hulls, Graf & Sons is out of them. So if anybody knows where else to purchase hulls, I would appreciate it. Also is there a manual out there for re-loading that included 2 1/2" shells. I used to reload 12's, and 20's, but not in 20 years. Would like to get back into it, have a Mec 650 just have to get the componets for 16 ga. Also, what would I have to do for crimping the shorter shell? Thanks.
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XVIgauge
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:02 pm  Reply with quote
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David,
Welcome to the site. These are a bunch of friendly and helpful guys.
I'll tell you what works for me for 2 1/2" loads. I order Fiochhi or Chedite hulls from www.ballisticproducts.com
I then use their hull trimmer to shorten them to 2 1/2", though you could use a moto tool, a band saw or probably a dozen other ways to shorten them. A load that works great for me in my guns, though not necessarily in yours is the following: Above mentioned hull (already primed), BP's Sporting 16 wad, 20 grains of Unique, 7/8 ounce shot, an over shot card and a roll crimp. BP has a roll crimping die that chucks in a drill press or hand drill, and a vise for holding the shell while roll crimping. It's easy and doesn't take as much time as you would think.
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Dave Miles
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:17 pm  Reply with quote
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XVIgauge,
Do you know the PSI of the load you mentioned?
I just sent these 3 loads in for testing:
All 3 are made with new 2-1/2" Cheddite hulls from Graf's and
I'm assuming cheddite primers, since they came primed.
R-16 wads, 1oz shot, 1 - .030" overshot card, and roll crimped.
#1 has 19.5 grains IMR 7625
#2 has 22 grains IMR 7625
#3 has 18.5 grains Unique

I do not know the PSI on these loads yet, do NOT use them!

I will post results when I get them.
Dave M.
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David
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:00 pm  Reply with quote
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Thanks for the help, do you know if there is a one-piece wad to use in the shorter shells and can it be crimped?
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Dave Miles
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:27 pm  Reply with quote
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David, you really need to look at the first post in this thread.
16 gauge low pressrue group, and join this group.
More low pressure info than you can use. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:50 pm  Reply with quote
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David,

Don't reload so I can't help you there, but I wanted to welcome you to the site. Dave M is right: lots of good folks here. Maybe somewhere down the line I can help out with one of your questions, or you with one of mine! Enjoy...

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David
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:06 pm  Reply with quote
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Thanks everyone for your help. I think that I will be joining up.
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XVIgauge
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:53 pm  Reply with quote
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Dave M,
one of the manuals I have lists the 2 1/2" 11/16 ounce load at 1165 fps and 8000 psi.
the same manual lists the 2 3/4" 7/8 ounce load w/ 21 grains of Unique at 1290 fps and 9,300 psi
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Dave Miles
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:03 am  Reply with quote
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XVIgauge, both of those loads are higher than I want to shoot. I like mine at 7600 PSI or less. It will be interesting to see how those loads I submitted turn out. Hopefully I'll get the results this week.
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