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tingfam
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:18 am  Reply with quote



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I'm new to the forum given that I recently acquired my first 16 ga. I've shot doubles all my life beginning with a Stevens sxs .410, then 20 ga, then an Ithaca/SKB 20. I've got a companion 12 to the Ithaca now and a little Spanish 28 ga, but I've wanted a vintage 16 for quite a while. I found this French guild gun from a seller in New Hampshire and just received it. I'm going out for the last chukar hunt of the season tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.


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skeettx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:53 am  Reply with quote
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Yeeee Hawwww
Is it a 65mm chamber?
What ammo will you be using?
Congratulations

Give us more pictures of your French Guild gun





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tingfam
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:20 am  Reply with quote



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Thanks. It's got 2 3/4 in chambers. Whether they were lengthened or not I'm not sure. It's a pre-war gun and they usually came with 65mm chambers in these guns, but it appears it was this way from the outset. I shoot Polywad spreader loads in a couple of my older, full choked guns, so I bought a few boxes of 2 1/2" 1oz #6's for starters. I'll get more pictures up. It's not as fancy as your little French gun. (Nice engraving on the top lever) Mine's plain and simple, but it has been taken care of and locks up tight. I've always thought the French and German guns with slings had some charm. Practical too for chukar hunting.
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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:28 am  Reply with quote



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You chose well. If the operator cooperates, he can have a reasonable hope of scenes like this

and this


Just understand that, once you start using a French guild gun like yours (or mine), you're going to be ruined for all other guns.

Some say "Welcome to the Dark Side" and some say it's seeing the light but, regardless, you're done now.
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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:32 am  Reply with quote



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tingfam wrote:
Thanks. It's got 2 3/4 in chambers. Whether they were lengthened or not I'm not sure. It's a pre-war gun and they usually came with 65mm chambers in these guns, but it appears it was this way from the outset.


If it had 2 3/4 chambers from the start, it should be stamped with 70 (as in 70 mm) on the barrel flats. If it's stamped 65, it's been opened out.

No matter. If the chambers measure 2 3/4, it should handle any of the factory stuff.

Chances are, you're going to love shooting this gun.
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tingfam
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:50 am  Reply with quote



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Thanks Dave and Skeet. I'll look closer at the markings. Kind of tough to read. I'll get my magnifying glass out. Guns are funny that way. When you're young and poor you have one shotgun, one high powered rifle, and one .22 and you shoot them all well because that's all you've got. Then you get greedy and buy more guns so you go from gun to gun depending on the game, etc and I think I lose something. Like fly rods. I fish bamboo rods and I'd be fine with a 7'6" #4 for almost all my stream fishing, but of course I have an addiction so I own more than a dozen rods and a baker's dozen of shotguns... We've got to have something for the dogs to do, right? Here's one of my French Brittanies.



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skeettx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:29 am  Reply with quote
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See if you can give us something like this

You will see this is stamped 65

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tingfam
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:16 pm  Reply with quote



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Here are a few pics of the French gun. I'm using my iphone so the resolution isn't super but I can't see the chamber length stamped anywhere. Like I said it measures 2 3/4. Thanks for your interest.

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skeettx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:18 pm  Reply with quote
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You did good!!!
Thanks for sharing, AND have a great hunt!!
mIKE
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tingfam
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:36 pm  Reply with quote



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Right side up.

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Dave in Maine
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Looks like a nice stout gun. I want to call it a Robust, but if it were it would say "Robust" right on the gun. The PT with an arrow is a new one to me and doesn't appear on my chart. Of course, that doesn't mean anything other than it doesn't appear on my chart.... Laughing

The stamp that says how many kilos pressure it was tested to will show just how stout.

And the "Fabrication Mechanique" is a sign of the times - when machine made was deemed superior to handmade.
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BarkeyVA
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Skeettex, What does the 18.3 stamped on each barrel of your gun represent?

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skeettx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:03 pm  Reply with quote
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Read here

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100653&start=0

18.2 equates to .716 Inch and 18.3 is .720 Inch. These are relatively tight bores for a 12 which has a nominal bore size of .729 ".

My other French gun is 18.4


My 16 gauge guns with these kind of markings are all Belguim guns.
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BarkeyVA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:35 pm  Reply with quote
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Thanks for the clarification. I thought the numbers might indicate bore diameter but when I did the conversion to English units the value didn't make sense for a 16 ga. And, I was more confused when they didn't match a typical 12 either.

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britgun
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I have 3: a guild gun that weighs just 5 lbs, then a higher grade Robust ejector, and a guild hammergun. They are really very tight guns and well made.
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