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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ New Guy (long post) |
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Fri May 19, 2006 7:51 am
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Joined: 19 May 2006
Posts: 315
Location: Too far south in New England
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Hey all,
Boy have I been waiting for a site/society like this to come around! I've been perusing some of the posts and am finding lots of interesting stuff.
I started with the 16 ga after reading lots of articles, some by Larry Brown who I believe is the one posting on this message board. If that's the case, thanks Larry!
My first 16's were a couple of Savage guns (Ward's Western and a Central arms). Unfortunately neither was really good enough on it's own and I ended up making one out of 2...kind of nice though as I have a set of 28 barrels and a 21" set that needed some shortening due to an unreparable dent .
I eventually bought a 16 ga Ithaca Flues in 26"...I love that gun but it has some troubles with the release lever that I am going to resolve one day...for now it is in a safe place.
I decided to buy a White Lightning Citori when the new run came out. I also love that gun, though I wish it was American made. It is my main hunting gun and the Ithaca was my special day gun (Veteran's day, Thanksgiving day) until the release lever started sticking .
So now I needed a back up to the Citori, but I felt it should match the dimensions a little more. In comes the Grade 6 Citori...and believe me, my wife always gets that "why did you spend that much money on a gun" look everytime she sees it. I use it for clays and plan on hitting some quail with it when I visit the in-laws down in Tallahassee. I guess I would use it up here in the thickets, but I would be lots more careful.
I had a hankering for another SXS, though, and I loved the idea of an Elsie, but couldn't find one to my liking in the price range. I happened to luck into a Crescent New Empire, which looks remarkably like an Elsie due to the sideplates. I like guns with connections and I went to school in Norwich (where the Crescent factory was located) and the Northern half of my wife's family did work for the factory around the time this gun was made, so who knows how that circle is completed. This is now my special day gun.
Due to the Flues, I had to start reloading to keep the pressures down. I have lots of fun with that and I am still trying different recipes. I have almost as much fun playing with that and trying all the new components available. Have been negligent lately, though, due to a move.
I hunt mostly Woodcock, chase Grouse whenever I can , recently got into ducks and geese (absolute fun with the Citori!), occasionally pheasants, and once in a blue moon I get to hunt quail southern style...took my first double over my dog on quail, not hard, but momentous just the same.
Sorry for the long post, I really dig the 16 ga.
Looking forward to chatting with all of you.
Chris Boix |
_________________ "You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya |
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Fri May 19, 2006 7:58 am
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Joined: 15 Mar 2005
Posts: 358
Location: Houston
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Welcome to the board, Chris. Always good to hear from other 16 gaugers. I've got a White Lightning, too, but there's so much competition from my other guns, that it doesn't get out as often as it would like.
Don't overlook the low-pressure reloading group. Sounds like it's right up your alley. |
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Fri May 19, 2006 8:50 am
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Joined: 06 Aug 2004
Posts: 2172
Location: Kansas High Plains
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Welcome Chris! I think you'll find most everyone here helpful and friendly!
Fin |
_________________ I feel a warm spot in my heart when I meet a man whiling away an afternoon...and stopping to chat with him, hear the sleek lines of his double gun whisper "Sixteen." - Gene Hill, Shotgunner's Notebook |
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Fri May 19, 2006 9:34 am
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 2016
Location: Glendale, AZ
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Welcome Chris. I've hunted hard in quail country (and visits to S. Texas which is quail heaven in a good year) and have NEVER taken a double over my dog-that's quite an accomplishment brother! There are some more Flues-o-philes here also. |
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Fri May 19, 2006 10:21 am
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Joined: 12 Mar 2005
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Location: massachusetts
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Hey Rev, considering how you describe the dog, its a wonder you've taken any! Geez, if the poor dog knew about how you carry on, he'd lead you into a mine field and point out a tank buster for you. |
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Fri May 19, 2006 10:48 am
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
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Location: Glendale, AZ
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Well not to hijack the post BUT speaking of that rabid little dog-discovered this am that he had managed to dig up about 15 feet of buried LIVE electric line so spent a delightful morning in the desert digging a trench in the red boiler plate stuff that passes for 'soil' out here. He loses his cojones in 3 wks when we're in Guatemala and better get some religion thereafter or may be heading where bad little dogs go (or at least back to Idaho where he came from-you reading this Clare Kofoed??? )
Part of my quail shooting problem was that I was so ecstatic to find the dog on point AND THOSE SETTERS DOGS SURE ARE PRETTY ON POINT that I was busy digging my camera out to document the miracle about the time the birds broke (lost a couple cameras throwing them at the departing birds also) |
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Fri May 19, 2006 11:01 am
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Joined: 12 Mar 2005
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Location: massachusetts
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Geez Rev, remind me not to dig up any cables around you. I don't use my cojones much anymore, but I like them fine where they are.
PS: Why Guatemala--don't they have any vets in AZ?
PPS: What gauge camera do you prefer for throwing at quail? |
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Fri May 19, 2006 1:13 pm
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Joined: 01 Feb 2005
Posts: 740
Location: New England, home of fat teddy k.
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From what I've heard the quail have more to fear from the rev's shutters, than his clunker tire iron.
Excerpt from a film rev did on hunt quail with kat/dog
"nice quail, here little quaily, your uncle rev's got some chicken feed for you, now pose for the camera"...." naw, I only want to shoot with you with my little camera, I've evolved(well maybe not cause I don't belive in Darwinism)maybe I mean matured(thats old guy talk for got old) I just can't find it in myself to kill you poor little quailies(that and my damm tire iron keeps misfireing) |
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Fri May 19, 2006 1:14 pm
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Joined: 01 Feb 2005
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Location: New England, home of fat teddy k.
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yea yea I know nasty pm on it's way |
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Fri May 19, 2006 3:46 pm
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Joined: 22 Aug 2004
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Location: South Texas
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Welcome, Chris. You must have a good sense of humor to read and join this group. I also have a Flues model in 16gauge. I hope you enjoy The 16 Ga Society as much as the rest of us. |
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Fri May 19, 2006 5:14 pm
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Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 1522
Location: NH
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Welcome Chris. Hope you have thick skin around here when it comes to your guns and dogs. There is no mercy shown here about your particular preference. Although all in fun.
Watch out for the Rev and that hunshatt guy. They'll be on ya rather quick. |
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Fri May 19, 2006 6:24 pm
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Joined: 01 Jan 2006
Posts: 610
Location: Parker,CO,US
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Welcome aboard Chris, send some of that east coast rain out west so we can have some birds to hunt this coming season.
Hc |
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Sat May 20, 2006 10:02 am
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Joined: 19 May 2006
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Location: Too far south in New England
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TJC, Where I hunt is mostly prickers and thornplums anyway so I got skin thicker than some parts of my body ..I used to hunt with a jockstrap and cup for that but I found jeans work much better ....
Rev, careful about threatening with Idaho, my only experience there last summer reminded me of birddog heaven! Some serious birdage out there! Your dog might just be pointing you in that direction . Interestingly enough, I was fishing as often as I could after a seminar and usually had my camera...actually got a few shots of quail, grouse and ducks flushing, just to see if I would've fired and missed. Never thought to throw the camera...how much lead should I use?
Bayberry is a pretty English Setter who will crawl through anything to point a woodcock, but truth be told she's a bit of a Taa Taa when it comes to things like pouring rain or blizzards...the nerve of some dogs..
Thank you all for the warm welcome. I think I'm really gonna like it here... |
_________________ "You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya |
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Sat May 20, 2006 10:31 am
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 2016
Location: Glendale, AZ
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the jock and cup thing-PICS ARE NOT NECESSARY That's probably what made your setter alittle circumspect regarding hunting with you in bad weather-too much class to be seen with a half frozen/half necked man totin' a gun through the woods And I bet she's happier when you're carrying that neat old Flues.
Try wearing lederhosen like thudddd (those pics we'd like to see). |
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Sat May 20, 2006 7:02 pm
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Joined: 01 Feb 2005
Posts: 740
Location: New England, home of fat teddy k.
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Nother nast pm heading your way |
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