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Mon May 29, 2006 8:13 pm
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Joined: 29 May 2006
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Location: Cook, MN
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Hi everyone,
I just joined and wanted to intoduce myself.
I got my start with 16's in 1988 when I inherited a Coast-to-Coast single shot from my grandfather. It was a nice gun to carry for grouse except for one thing; it had a terribly tight choke that would make a modern turkey gun jealous. After destroying a couple of grouse, it was retired for a 12 ga with a more open choke.
I have always been intrigued by the 16 gauge even though I was told not to waste my time on "oddballs" (was told this regarding rifles also). This year I finally found a couple of repeaters. First I found a Savage 775 and then a Remington Sportsman (mod 11). I am looking forward to using them this fall for grouse and puddle jumping. I do a lot of walking and a day of carrying one of the 16's will be much more fun than my 8lb Super X2. Now I just need to find a nice 28.
I did have one question. I have read in several places on the internet that the serial number on a Sportsman gun is supposed to start with an "S". Mine starts with a "1" like a standard Model 11, but the bolt says Sportsman. Is this an exception, or possibly would this be a pieced together gun (doesnt matter to me as it is a shooter, not a collector).
Thanks.
Steve |
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Mon May 29, 2006 8:20 pm
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
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Location: Glendale, AZ
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Tue May 30, 2006 7:26 am
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Location: Kansas High Plains
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Welcome Sportsman 16! I have a 16ga Savage 775 - the only gun I ever saw my father shoot - and my father-in-law shot a Model 11 (a 12ga however), so we have something in common! Enjoy...
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Tue May 30, 2006 11:37 am
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
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PM sent to mod11rem-must be away from internet access right now. |
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Tue May 30, 2006 11:47 am
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Joined: 19 May 2006
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Location: Too far south in New England
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Welcome Steve, I just joined myself...enjoying it tremendously. Some good people here! |
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Tue May 30, 2006 1:09 pm
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Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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Location: Concordia, Kansas
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Welcome Steve
It's always nice to hear we have another 16 gauge shooter. Is your Model 11 a three shot version? Those were the ones marked 'Sportsman" Remington did this with the 11-48 and 11-58's also.
Again, welcome.
Terry
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Tue May 30, 2006 2:21 pm
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Joined: 28 Jul 2004
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Location: W. Monroe, LA
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Welcome Steve,
I also had my first experience with the 16ga, as a young lad, walking between my father and G'dad. They both shot 16s, so it was pretty much a no brainer, since I couldn't afford my own shells. Have fun and don't be shy.
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Tue May 30, 2006 7:41 pm
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Joined: 29 May 2006
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Brdhnt, it is the three shot version, but the serial # on the receiver starts with a 1 and not an "S" as understood the Sportsman model should. This leads me to believe that either (1) at one time or another this gun was put together with spare parts or (2) Remington produced some Sportsman models that didnt start their serial # with an S.
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Tue May 30, 2006 8:03 pm
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Tue May 30, 2006 8:07 pm
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Location: Cook, MN
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I checked the history section on Remington's site. They said all Sportsman guns had serial #'s that started with S.
Steve |
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:30 pm
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Joined: 29 May 2006
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Just got my 16 ga society bag. What a neat little piece! This is worth the 25$ let alone the fact that I can use this website for life. Guys thanks again for your help and suggestions on my question. I will figure out this gun sooner or later.
Steve |
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:16 am
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Joined: 20 Nov 2005
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Location: Jonesboro, AR
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I'm not dead just been busy.
Remington may have had a policy to start all sportsman 3 shot models with an S and most in fact do. However, the word "Sportsman" does not appear on the bolt on all models, I have 3 sportsmans and my 20 and 12 have the word on the bolt and my 16 doesn't. I'm absolutely sure that the 16 and 12 are factory original as they were both immediate family guns that I'm sure of their history. It wouldn't surprise me if there is the occaisional Sportsman that has a serial number starting with something other than an S, especially in light of the fact that all sportsmans are not marked exactly the same as mentioned above. Remington has a history of not always being consistent on many fronts. However, the gun in question could be "pieced together" as all receiver parts and barrels are interchangeable with the 5 shot "regular" models. Many many 5 shot models were made before they introduced the Sportsman. I believe the sportsman was introduced as a 3 shot model to have a lighter quicker upland game bird gun. However, (I can't remember but I believe it was introduced in the 30' and discontinued along with all 11's at the end of 1947) I have heard the opinion that it was introduced as a 3 shot so hunters of migratory birds (duck, geese, doves and such) wouldn't have to fool with plugging their guns. This logic makes sense as it was in the 30's that the 3 shot law, duck stamp program came into being. I beleive the first duck stamp was 1937. My uncle, who owned my 16 sportsman, was willing to trade the extra two shots for lighter weight, even though he was mainly a quail hunter and quail had (and still doesn't) no shot limit.
That's what little I know. keep her clean and enjoy your gun. also remember to set your compression ring for light or heavy loads depending on what you are shooting. If it's set for heavy loads, it won't cycle right with light loads. If it's set for light loads it will cycle fine with heavy loads but it will beat up your shoulder unnecessarily.
By the way, the name sportsman was just simply carried over to the 11-48 so all 11-48's were "sportsmans". mod11rem |
_________________ If I can't throw lead from a 16, I'd just as soon throw rocks. |
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:44 am
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Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Location: Houston
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mod11rem,
A lot of good info there, but I disagree with your last point. My 11-48 does not say Sportsman anywhere on it. And the Remington site lists the Sportsman 48 as a 3-shot version of the 11-48. My 11-48 is not a 3-shot, unless I plug it. |
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:23 pm
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Joined: 29 May 2006
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Location: Cook, MN
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Mod11Rem,
Thanks much for the info. Most likely a pieced together gun then.
I previously owned both a Mod 48 "Sportsman" and an 11-48 in 12ga. Guns were identical except the Sportsman had some type of indentation in the magazine tube that would stop the spring cap at 2 shells in the magazine.
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:46 am
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Joined: 20 Nov 2005
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Location: Jonesboro, AR
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you're right, I forgot that they made the 11-48 in 3 and 5 shot versions. the 3 shot was the "sportsman". mod11rem |
_________________ If I can't throw lead from a 16, I'd just as soon throw rocks. |
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