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morngstar
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:02 pm  Reply with quote
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It is an unmolested, all matching numbers gun. Barrel, receiver, screws, fore hand/arm, and stock. I did not pull the trigger to check the tang...at this point I don't want to know Wink

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:49 pm  Reply with quote
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If you ever decide to part with it let me know , I could go as high as $475.00 Laughing Laughing Laughing

No matter how many where ever produce in1936 , ( not sure if anybody really knows ) You have very nice very rare gun !

If it were mine I would never part with it, just as I will never part with my 1939 VR 3 shot. I shoot sporting clays and bird hunt with it all the time, it is just a fatastic gun.

One thing I have never understood , is why , it is considered that a converted pre war 16ga is worth more than an unconverted gun . If you cut the stock off and ad a recoil pad its worth less or if it has poly choke its worth less, but if you do the 7 or 8 steps it takes to convert one correctly to 2 3/4 chamber its worth more. Not in me eyes. I own five pre war 16s and none have been converted , I wouldn,t own one that was.
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Have you noticed how different the three shot swings through the air? It is as natural a feel as pointing with your finger. A standard 12ga A5 with a rib feels like swinging a log by comparison. The price guides were written for retailers. The 2 3/4 guns move faster. That is more important than original. We who appreciate original have a different set of values. It's an apples and oranges thing. Our worlds are not better or worse...just different.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:57 pm  Reply with quote
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I like mine Very Happy





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morngstar
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:20 pm  Reply with quote
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Nice condition. Is the blue original? The date guides say it was born in 1939. Did you cross check it with Browning sale date? Not that it is important but inquiring minds wanna know.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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???
I just like to shoot it
Have done no research.
So many guns, so little time Very Happy Shocked Embarassed
Mike

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Were the 3-shot models manufactured in "standard" and "sweet" versions?
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And all this time (that is a couple of months now) I felt like I was all alone in 1947 16 gauge Browning 3-shot camp!



Belgian browning, 1947, solid rib, standard weight. Nice to meet another one!
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morngstar
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kgb wrote:
Were the 3-shot models manufactured in "standard" and "sweet" versions?


Hi, Yes the 3 shot was built in the standard and Sweet 16ga. It was also built in the Light and Standard 12ga. They are all very very scarce. Scarce as they all are the fewest numbers exist in the post war 2 3/4 chambered version 16ga. The three shot was also produced in the American made Remington A5.

According to "The book" S/V, the last year of production for the USA market was 1947. The 3 shot was still marketed by FN outside the USA after 1947. They were popular in Europe.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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morngstar
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NapalmCheese wrote:
And all this time (that is a couple of months now) I felt like I was all alone in 1947 16 gauge Browning 3-shot camp!



Belgian browning, 1947, solid rib, standard weight. Nice to meet another one!


Congrats on your trophy gun. You are not alone but there are not many of us. It is an awesome handling gun.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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morngstar
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morngstar wrote:
kgb wrote:
Were the 3-shot models manufactured in "standard" and "sweet" versions?


Scarce as they all are the fewest numbers exist in the post war 2 3/4 chambered version 16ga.

According to "The book" S/V, the last year of production for the USA market was 1947. The 3 shot was still marketed by FN outside the USA after 1947. They were popular in Europe.


Scarce is a relative term. I would guess untold thousands of 3 shots are out there. Try to find one. Then try to buy one. My opinion is they are scarce.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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In 1936 engraved receivers were listed as Grade II. In 1938 the engraved receiver became Grade I and standard on most A5s. Does anybody here know the difference in Grade II 1936 and Grade I 1938 engraving? Is it exactly the same?



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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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fn16ga
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Morngstar,

Just curious Is your gun the same gun that was listed on gun broker . begining of the month , think the auction ended on the 1st .
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morngstar
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I did find the gun on GB last mo. I don't remember when it ended but it did not sell. I contacted the seller and made an offer cause it seemed to be an original early Sweet Sixteen. He told me the reserve he set was 1,299.00. We talked trade and barter for two weeks. I got two A5s and a Winchester 12 16ga from him for some cash and one of my rifles. This jewel was one of the A5s. I called Browning for the history on both A5s. I almost fainted when he told me this gun sold in April of 1936. He said it is a "very very very early Sweet Sixteen." I called him again the next week and asked him to double check the date for typo or other error. He said I have all the documents in front of me. He read from the order, invoice and shipping order. He assured me it was sold and shipped in April of 1936. I ordered and have the letter from him.

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1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga
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kgb
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morngstar wrote:
In 1936 engraved receivers were listed as Grade II. In 1938 the engraved receiver became Grade I and standard on most A5s. Does anybody here know the difference in Grade II 1936 and Grade I 1938 engraving? Is it exactly the same?


Apparently not. Here are my standard 16 Grade II from about 1931 and my "non-sweet" sweet from, I believe, 1947.

Top photo, standard is on the top. Bottom photo, standard is on the bottom.



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