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Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Posts: 1358 Location: Twin Cities, MN

Morngstar
I have no doubt your new shotgun will work. You can even load your 3" 16 ga hulls with 20 ga wads and it will work. Devices such as chamber mates and gauge mates have been doing this for years. Before lightweight 16 ga loads were readily available one of my friends shot 28 ga inserts in his super lightweight 16 sxs at targets. It worked amazingly well. I shoot .410 Chamber Mates in my 28s and they work so well that I get offers to buy my inserts regularly. There is no question your gun will work. The great difficulty will be in providing incontrovertible evidence that it is "better" than anything else out there. I shoot at Neil Winston's home club and we have had some great discussions about shotgun patterns, bores, chambers, forcing cones and chokes. The effects of all of these things are subtle. They are there, but the effects are relatively small on shotgun pattern performance. I have shot 12 gauge guns with bore sizes from 0.718 to 0.800" and they all worked. I have found that the shooter pointing the shotgun is far and away more important than any other factor when shooting. Enjoy your Super Sixteen - you will have a truly unique shooter. It is unlikely to perform better or worse than anything currently available. Instead of rechambering a shotgun having Briley or GaugeMate make a set of 3" 16 ga inserts may well accomplish the same thing. I look forward to seeing the results of your labors.
Regards,
Jeff

I think I might be in the minority , but I applaud your effort . Somebody , somewhere had to have produced a 3" 16ga , because I've seen factory loaded Winchester ammo in 3" . I would sincerely like to see the 16 regain some of it's former glory and be a widespread offering from the manufacturers , but I am a realist and really don't see that happening . Good luck to you , and I hope she shoots sweet.

still the easiest way to do one up - take an 870 and chamber it out - will work right outta the box !

Winchester produced some Model 21's in 16 Gauge 3".

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Rocky Mountain Cartridge came through. Check out these High Brass next to the Federal 2 3/4 16ga Magnums

Three inch 16ga brass

I am still waiting for the converted 3" chambered 16ga Superposed from Briley. They have had the gun since October. Last I talked to them the barrels were threaded with screw in thin wall briley chokes. The 3" chamber conversion was complete and we were just waiting on the ejectors. I may need to settle for extractors but that may be better for these brass hulls.

what are you using for money? Some from the big bag right.

Experimenting is good and can only benefit all of us by supplying new information. That said, I add that the reason I like the 16 gauge is for its balance of handling and power; I reckon that this would not be the same in a gun made to handle 3" shells. But every one to his own!

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2346 Location: West MI

Thanks for chronicling your project morngstar,

Just a curious "shootin the breeze" type question; did RMC share with you the process making these hulls? Are they turned from blanks? Stamped then turned? Only stamped?

Putz, If I may ...
When RMC was in Cody and owned by Dave Casey, I spent many hours talking with Dave and observing the process. RMC hulls are lathe turned from solid bar stock.

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2346 Location: West MI

Wow, if still true, with more expensive material ending up in the scrap bin than in the finished box that's pretty expensive offal that only gets a fraction of return on the dollar for remelt.

Those hulls look fantastic, hope it all works out and some new interesting light is shed on the 16ga platform. Damn the torpedoes....

Here's a thought...if the 3" 20ga is "credited" with the demise of the 16ga....should the 12ga be shakin in its boots?? Very Happy

It arrived. My Superposed three inch 16ga has finally arrived. I cant wait to shoot it this weekend.

That is just cool as heck . I'm glad you went with what you wanted and didn't listen to some of the naysayers . Enjoy it , she's a beauty.

Looks like you have everything you need is there. Very curious about the results.

I am heading to the range now. I am only shooting factory ammo (Federal magnum, Remington, Winchester, Herters, and BP 2 1/2) for now. I am gonna do some side by side patterning with my Ithaca 37 full choke, Browning A5 full choke and the Super 16 full choke. I plan to start at 30yds and move out to 40, 50 and maybe 60yds.

I have your 1oz LongShot CB recipe loaded and a few other loads for Tom Armbrust to test next month. We will have to wait as I am not shooting anything not pressure tested. Thanks for your encouragement and input on this project.