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readgriff
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:07 pm  Reply with quote



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I cut apart a 16ga Herters shell.
The wad to the left is from the herters shell the wad is a little compressed as you can see in the oval it is a SG 16 wad.
The powder is tuqouse blue and are little flat round plates 14.5 grains.
The shot is 8 shot in size and just a little under a 1oz[/img]


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:46 pm  Reply with quote
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I bought 9 CASES on sale but they don't cycle my Sweet Sixteen...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:55 pm  Reply with quote
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Please tell me more about how you have set the rings on your shotgun.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:32 pm  Reply with quote
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Looking at those wads, they look identical except the Herters wad looks like the oval ring has taken a set from being slightly compressed. I'd hate to bet any money on it, but I think they're both SG-16's.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:43 pm  Reply with quote
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The one in the Herter's shell looks like the SG-16 short that BPI is selling.
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/SG16S-Sporting-16ga-Short-wads-250_bag/productinfo/072SG16S/

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:47 pm  Reply with quote
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Mike:

I always start out set for heavy loads: Recoil Spring, Friction Ring-bevel up, Bronze Friction Piece-bevel up. If it doesn't cycle, I switch to the setting for light loads: Ring-bevel down, Spring, Bronze F.P.

If I'm still having trouble I add lube to the mag tube. Hasn't helped with Herters.

I'm going to try a box from a different case next; a friendly suggested it might just be that lot.

Polishing the mag tube is next, and maybe the chamber. But I don't think its the gun--I've got 2 Sweets and both eject other brands and my reloads 10 ft. Neither likes Herters.

Last resort is to take a hacksaw to the friction piece. Might work!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:58 pm  Reply with quote
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Just checked, the 20 gauge uses the same Friction Piece as the 16. The hacksaw shouldn't be necessary. I'll try a single 20 Magnum F.P.

Fingers crossed...
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readgriff
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:21 pm  Reply with quote



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Riflemeister you are correct the wad is a SG16
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Another trick seldom used is to line up the cuts in the bronze friction piece and the steel ring over it.

Often works

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:22 pm  Reply with quote
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Thanks, I'll try it.
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Another trick would be to send those 9 cases of shells to me. My Remington Model 31 cycles them just fine, and I'd be more than happy to pay for shipping. Wink Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:55 pm  Reply with quote
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Let me try the 20 mag friction piece first. I'm actually pretty excited about it!
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To add, the hull looks as good as anything available to reload and better than most. Shot was soft in ones I opened. But the $69.99 a flat price at Cabelas is refreshing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:10 am  Reply with quote
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Update: My attempt to use a smaller friction piece to get the Herters to cycle a Sweet Sixteen didn't work. The plan for now is to use them for the 2nd shot at doubles. I've only got about 2000 shells left...


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:39 pm  Reply with quote
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I have no problem cycling them in my citori

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