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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ 1oz = 7/80z ??? |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:51 pm
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I bought a 16 ga mec jr, got my 1 oz recipe all ready, tried a load,
When I weighed everything on the first try I found my 1oz charge bar is throwing 384 grams of lead which is just over 7/8 as far as my RCBS scale tells me...
Any ideas, get a 1-1/8 bar ?, add an 8th to each load manually ? |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:05 pm
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| Shot size,hardness and uniformity all effect the final drop weight.The 1 1/8 oz bar might drop just that. This is why I use adjustable bars.Shoot the load as is and you will never miss those extra pellets. |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:17 pm
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| Not only will you not miss those pellets, but every 7 or 8 shells you load will give you one for "free". |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:03 pm
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Here is what is a stake,
if you load #9s they will pack more densly than say #5s.
So to keep it safe, the bars are bored to throw the weight
in #9 shot.
It is all volumn based, you will not miss the few pellets 
Mike
p.s. what shot size were you loading? |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:34 pm
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| Thanks !!! |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:29 pm
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| skeettx wrote: |
Here is what is a stake,
if you load #9s they will pack more densly than say #5s.
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Reminds me Soil Mechanics class & laboratory in my Civil engineering curriculum. But what would the volume of the voids be? 
On a serious note, thanks for the insight skeettx. |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:31 pm
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i'm not much for MEC bars because they throw light.
Like the hoashooter I use the adjustable bars, I want every pellet in the pattern that I am supposed to have. |
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:49 pm
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Last edited by mike campbell on Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:43 pm
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This is sort of an endless topic. MEC bars and bushings don't throw either shot or powder as they are listed. Lots of reasons for it. It just is. You can get close but even if you take a file to the shot side, it won't do all sizes to the desired weight. As far a powder throws are concerned, get a lot of bushings. Over the years I have amassed a stack of bars and just about every bushing they make.
I finally put a universal bar on my 12 gauge and have been quite pleased with it. |
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:30 pm
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Yep. If you're picky, and you should be, universal bar and a good scale.
Matt |
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:22 pm
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| I don't have a MEC but what I've done on a PW is check what amounts I was getting of the three or four sizes of shot and several powders that I get with each bushing; then I use a bushing that gives the amount of shot/powder listed in the printed load, and skip what bushing it says to use. |
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:38 pm
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| JPM98VMI wrote: |
| skeettx wrote: |
Here is what is a stake,
if you load #9s they will pack more densly than say #5s.
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Reminds me Soil Mechanics class & laboratory in my Civil engineering curriculum. But what would the volume of the voids be?
On a serious note, thanks for the insight skeettx.
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A digital scale which can be accurately tared makes the following a lot easier, but any accurate scale will work:
First determine the weight of an empty level topped container of a convenient size to determine its tare weight. Next fill the container full to the top with water @ 77 F and weigh it. Next fill the empty container level to the top with pellets and weigh it. Now add enough water to the pellets in the container to reach the top and weigh it once more.
One gallon of water @ 77 F. weighs 8.33 pounds, 133.28 ounces. or 3.778 Kg. Now do the math.  |
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Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:56 pm
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| CitoriFeather16 wrote: |
Yep. If you're picky, and you should be, universal bar and a good scale.
Matt
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Didn't take me long to reach that conclusion after acquiring my first MEC. Plus, I'm the no. 1 Cheap Charlie. It looked like a better deal to invest in one adjustable bar instead of a myriad of bushings. |
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:27 am
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| CitoriFeather16 wrote: |
Yep. If you're picky, and you should be, universal bar and a good scale.
Matt
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Right on the nose, +1, have used UB's on most every press I've owned (all MEC), great inexpensive product that does exactly what it's supposed to do. Scale is a must for this hobby, no question. |
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:04 pm
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I agree with Skeettx- You (I) don't miss the few pellets the loader shorts you even in 7/8 ounce loads. It's surprising, I know, but true. I shoot super skeet from the low gun position. There is a clay sent from a trap house also on the skeet field, that is about 50 yards when I hit it. Or more. Even the 7/8 minus load breaks the bird with even a modified choke!
Enjoy your shooting!
Mike |
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