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< 16ga. Guns ~ English? project 16 gauge |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:32 am
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Joined: 20 Jul 2014
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Location: Waukesha, WI
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Good Morning All,
I've been lurking around this forum for the past several years, and finally have some reason to join. I just purchased a project gun, haven't gotten it in yet, but the auction link is as follows:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=428745013
I may have paid a bit more than its worth, but it really looks to be a higher grade gun with the exception of the obvious problems (stock, lack of trigger sears). The stock is a beautiful piece of wood, so I am hoping that I can clean it up and pin it to salvage it.
I've been doing some reading and I am inclined to agree with the seller that this is likely a W.C. Scott gun, but I if anyone has any other thoughts or opinions, they would be much appreciated.
Also, I just wanted to say thank you for the forum guys. About 3 years ago I started following this forum after I purchased a very clean Ranger 16 gauge (stevens 311) and started plastering pheasant left and right.
I will attempt to get this thread updated when I have some pictures of the gun in hand.
Thanks again! |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:57 am
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Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1008
Location: Sandy Lake, PA
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Welcome to all things 16ga. You're bound to get opinions/help on that purchase. |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:00 am
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Joined: 22 Aug 2011
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Location: the Moosehorn
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What ever you do to fix that beautiful stock do not put metal pins in it. use hickory or bamboo. do you know how to checker? |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:10 am
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Joined: 20 Jul 2014
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Location: Waukesha, WI
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Onefunzr2: Thank you!
Byrdog: I have done some checkering in the past and plan on doing a substantial amount of practice prior to any work on this stock.
My original plan (TBD after actually getting the gun in hand) was to do some hidden brass pins from the tang and trigger guard pocket so as not to have any visible ends. Any reason to do wood pins vs metal if they are all internal? I really do not want to have any externally visible pins or patches. It is far too nice a piece of wood to Bubba up like that. |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:10 pm
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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What a great project gun
Welcome on your first postings
and good luck
Sweet!!
Mike |
Last edited by skeettx on Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:28 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:14 pm
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Joined: 07 Apr 2007
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Location: northwewst Wyoming
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Love that wood! Looking forward to the finished project. |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:12 pm
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Very nice prospect. Good luck and I hope you bring her back to life. Lovely 16! |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:45 pm
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Joined: 22 Aug 2011
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Location: the Moosehorn
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The metal pins act as wedges during recoil . wood will absorb the energy and transfer it through the repair as if there were no repair at all. you can place the pins so the are not visible and epoxy them in place with a good quality 1 hour formula. you will have to take the current repair apart. I usually warm the whole stock in the oven to 200 deg.f then with a pair of gloves on pull the joint apart and scrape off as much of the mess as possible while the epoxy is still hot and soft. |
_________________ ALWAYS wear the safety glasses
If you take Cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like Prunes than Rhubarb does ----G.M/ |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:28 pm
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
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Location: Denver, Colorado
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He lost the sears???? And, did a fairly crappy repair to boot. Just who was that ham-fisted clod? He's somebody I need to avoid. Also, for a 16 to weigh that little, it was likely built on a 2-inch 12 frame and wouldn't be a Webly & Scott. |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:50 pm
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Joined: 20 Jul 2014
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Location: Waukesha, WI
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The more pictures I've been looking at online, the more it seems it may not be a Scott...anyone venture a guess as to who may have actually made the gun? |
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:43 pm
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Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Skimming & Wood? I would put it in the hands of a master gunmaker before doing anything. Dennis Potter is not too far from you. It may be tough to duplicate sears without having at least 1 as a pattern. I hope you get it up and running-nice gun!
Regards
Jeff |
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:37 am
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
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Location: Denver, Colorado
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I'd guess Skimmin and Wood. Looks like one of their 2-inch actions. That's a $5000 gun if it's in good shape. |
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:49 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 1943
Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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If it were me, I'd think about sending the gun to UncleDanFan for stock work. He's a magician with stock repair. At least ask him what he thinks it'd cost to get up to snuff. Gil |
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:02 pm
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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After reviewing the pictures
Are the sears and pin the only parts missing?
What about hammers and springs?
Thanks
Mike |
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:12 pm
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Joined: 20 Jul 2014
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Location: Waukesha, WI
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"Are the sears and pin the only parts missing?
What about hammers and springs? "
I asked that question also, and indeed the sears and pin are reportedly the only missing parts. If the hammers were missing, I probably would have passed.
Doing some reading it seems to be a Birmingham boxlock, Anson and Deeley style action. Could certainly be a Skimin and Wood. Interesting info about the 2" 12 frame size.
I'm really chomping at the bit to get the thing in hand and evaluate what I'm getting into. Then I can decide what I can do or what should be sourced. Waiting on the ffl call over the next week or two is going to be the end of me. |
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