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Two Pipe Shoot
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:54 am  Reply with quote
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Ok, you asked, don't buy it. Reno

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:12 pm  Reply with quote
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In a previous post I recommended XVI Gauge buy a Rem 31L instead of the BPS.
I just pulled out my BPS Upland 26", vent rib, English stocked gun and weighed it on my digital postal scale.

With a Briley extended choke installed, it weighs 6lbs, 14.8 oz's.

I then weighed my 1949 Rem 31L, 28" plain barrel. It weighs 5lbs, 12.8 oz's.

I prefer the Rem 31L over the BPS, I shoot it better than my BPS. The light weight does not bother me, quite the opposite, at 72, it is a plus for me.

The 31L just seems to be a more natural pointer, which is an intangible I know.
If my health improves some, I will be carrying the 31L pheasant hunting this fall. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:24 pm  Reply with quote
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I have a 16 ga. 31L too Dale. I like it a lot, but the two guns really aren't all that comparable. Unless you like being jarred by recoil, the Rem is pretty much a light load specialist. And it's not easy to find one for sale -- in any kind of condition.

At a little under 7 lbs. and with choke tubes, the BPS is versatile. You can comfortably shoot all kinds of loads in it, and with choke options that make it useful in lots more shooting scenarios. I'd never choose my 31L for turkeys, late season ringnecks, or a few rounds of clays, but the little BPS works fine for any of these.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:00 pm  Reply with quote
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gunflint charlie wrote:
I have a 16 ga. 31L too Dale. I like it a lot, but the two guns really aren't all that comparable. Unless you like being jarred by recoil, the Rem is pretty much a light load specialist. And it's not easy to find one for sale -- in any kind of condition.

At a little under 7 lbs. and with choke tubes, the BPS is versatile. You can comfortably shoot all kinds of loads in it, and with choke options that make it useful in lots more shooting scenarios. I'd never choose my 31L for turkeys, late season ringnecks, or a few rounds of clays, but the little BPS works fine for any of these.

Jay


I agree completely. I shoot only pheasants and the occasional sharptail. I shoot 2 1/2" RST's in mine. One ounce loads.

For an all around 16ga, the BPS is more versatile. For MY wants and needs, the 31L is the better choice.

If I was going to need heavy loads though, I would use my 1941 Ithaca 37T, with new barrel installed a year ago by Ithaca, much smoother than the BPS.

AND, I LOVE the OLD guns! Wink

Old farts are hard headed!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:44 pm  Reply with quote
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Cheyenne08 wrote:
In a previous post I recommended XVI Gauge buy a Rem 31L instead of the BPS.
I just pulled out my BPS Upland 26", vent rib, English stocked gun and weighed it on my digital postal scale.

With a Briley extended choke installed, it weighs 6lbs, 14.8 oz's.

I then weighed my 1949 Rem 31L, 28" plain barrel. It weighs 5lbs, 12.8 oz's.

I prefer the Rem 31L over the BPS, I shoot it better than my BPS. The light weight does not bother me, quite the opposite, at 72, it is a plus for me.

The 31L just seems to be a more natural pointer, which is an intangible I know.
If my health improves some, I will be carrying the 31L pheasant hunting this fall. Wink

Dale


Dale, take my comments about not shooting my former 31 badly with a grain of salt. I can't shoot any lightweight guns well. Smile
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Dale, sounds like you should be offering to sell your BPS Upland to XVIgauge. Smile

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gunflint charlie wrote:
Dale, sounds like you should be offering to sell your BPS Upland to XVIgauge. Smile

Jay


Jay, I am a hopeless hoarder of firearms, after selling many firearms in the past, and regretting it later, I swore I wouldn't sell anymore.

IF XVIGauge comes to his senses, he WON'T buy the BPS!!! Very Happy

We agree more than you might think!

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The currently made M37 in 12, 16, 20 and 28 gauge now comes standard with a Briley choke tube system.
As for why a man would want a BPS as opposed to a Purdey, Holland, etc., it might not be desire controlling as much as wallet realities. Smile
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Gil S wrote:
The currently made M37 in 12, 16, 20 and 28 gauge now comes standard with a Briley choke tube system.
As for why a man would want a BPS as opposed to a Purdey, Holland, etc., it might not be desire controlling as much as wallet realities. Smile



Might also be because a man prefers a pump or semiauto to a double barrel of either configuration (kinda like me)

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bigboyd4466 wrote:
Gil S wrote:
The currently made M37 in 12, 16, 20 and 28 gauge now comes standard with a Briley choke tube system.
As for why a man would want a BPS as opposed to a Purdey, Holland, etc., it might not be desire controlling as much as wallet realities. Smile



Might also be because a man prefers a pump or semiauto to a double barrel of either configuration (kinda like me)


Quite possible, there is a unwritten thought that DOWN DEEP everybody would want a sxs, or as second choice, an O/U.

It never occurs to the anointed ones that some one might PREFER a pump, semi-auto,or worse, a single shot.

It never fails to amaze me how those with a certain type of gun just SOMEHOW knows what is best for YOU. Wink

Dave Erickson, I understand what you are saying, and completely agree with what you say. To each his own!

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Thanks for eveyone's help. The general consensus was not clear and convincing as even though most said buy it, most were kind of matter of fact about it. So, I have made up my own mind. I will NOT buy a BPS 16 gauge. What I will buy is an 11-48 Remington in 16 gauge; more history and sentiment about it and a lot less money.I'll take my time looking on GB for a few weeks and then decide on one.

BTW, I do already have some fine 16 gauge doubles. Just want something a little different.
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XVIgauge wrote:
Thanks for eveyone's help. The general consensus was not clear and convincing as even though most said buy it, most were kind of matter of fact about it. So, I have made up my own mind. I will NOT buy a BPS 16 gauge. What I will buy is an 11-48 Remington in 16 gauge; more history and sentiment about it and a lot less money.I'll take my time looking on GB for a few weeks and then decide on one.

BTW, I do already have some fine 16 gauge doubles. Just want something a little different.
xvigauge


Good for you! I hope you find what you are looking for. YOUR decision is always the way to go, as in the long run, only YOU have to be satisfied, no one else.

Good luck in your search! Wink

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XVIgauge wrote:
Thanks for eveyone's help. The general consensus was not clear and convincing as even though most said buy it, most were kind of matter of fact about it. So, I have made up my own mind. I will NOT buy a BPS 16 gauge. What I will buy is an 11-48 Remington in 16 gauge; more history and sentiment about it and a lot less money.I'll take my time looking on GB for a few weeks and then decide on one.

BTW, I do already have some fine 16 gauge doubles. Just want something a little different.
xvigauge


WOO HOO !!!! IT worked !!!
Another fine gun saved !!
Well hopefully....
I am a Sweet Sixteen fan myself, so I can certainly relate.
Had many doubles of all grades in the past, somehow the A'5s just won't leave.
Good luck, here's hoping you find that special one.
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I like your reasoning; 11-48's are cool guns and often have great wood. I think you made the right decision for the right reasons. The price for the forum's wisdom are pictures of the Remington and a possum grin from you!

Reno

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as I grew up , my 2 major dislikes were 48's and cutts . Now , my fave skeet gun is a 48 with a cutts ! Didn't think they'd last a hoot , but haven't been able to break one yet excpt for a lone FP . To me , for the field , the 48sportsman is like the crowned jewel ! The ONLY reason I'd discourage someone from getting one is (works for candy too!) is then there's more for me to peruse thru . From 16 down to the 410's , I'd always encourage someone to make the grab !

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