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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ 2 1/2 inch 16 ga reloading help |
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:26 am
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
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Location: Missouri
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Newbie here. I just purchased a 114 year old Drilling with 16 ga 2 1/2 IC and IM chokes and Krupp steel barrels. I have many questions.
1. Where can cases be found?
2. What powders/charge do you recommend? (I have titewad and longshot O/H)
3. Any special wads?
4. Can I use a spacer under the crimping stage to make decent 2 1/2 crimps?
5. Any other tips/precautions appreciated.
Thanks, Rick.
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:30 am
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Welcome to the 16ga forum
hulls in 2.5" can be had at Grafs,Ballistic Products, Precision Reloading. The best wad for them is the Gulandi 16ga short. The sp-16 will work with flake powders. RST makes loaded ammo in classic case length.
Precision reloading makes a "Short Kit" for mec loaders. and a great 16ga roll crimper. I use a PW 375 and I place a 1/4" spacer at the crimp station. If you want to roll crimp a small drill press works best for me. Harbour Frieght has one for about $70.00 very handy in the loading room. |
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:57 am
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
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Location: Missouri
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Gosh, that was fast. Thanks a million brydog. Rick. |
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:11 am
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:51 am
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Location: Missouri
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Hello Mike. It a 10.3x65R, Baenziger. I plan on fireforming some 7x56R brass with a possible trim and blast away. |
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Posted:
Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:57 am
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:07 am
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Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Location: Twin Cities, MN
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sako dick,
That gun is old and unsafe. You should immediately send it to me so I can make sure it's okay. Probably take 5 years or so!
Beautiful gun and welcome to 16 gauge madness.
Regards
Jeff |
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:17 pm
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
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Location: Missouri
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[quote="skeettx"]Do you mean use 7x65R Brenneke cases and fire form them?
Bullet diameter .423 should be easy to cast
Mike
Hello Mike. Yes, 7mmx65R. I'll need to trim the rim a few thou and possibly shim the rim thickness a bit and I have 40 pieces of brass on hand. To get things going, I ordered a box of 20 factory brass to get me started. Yes easy to cast. I plan on shooting a deer with the Dreiling this Fall. Rick. |
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:03 pm
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Awesome and remember to glue the shim on the front of the rim.
Good luck on the hunt
What mould will you use?
NEI page #9
Thanks,
Mike |
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Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:07 pm
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I may have something else here.....looks to me like this rifle chamber has been misidentified! I need to cast and slug the whole thing....more next week as I'm off to KC with the grandkids tomorrow. |
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Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:06 pm
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Joined: 15 Nov 2008
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Location: Georgia
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Rick,
I get my 2.5" hulls here:
https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!c=13&ga=16%20Gauge
That way I don't have to trim down from 2.75"
You don't say what kind of reloader you have. I have a MEC and as has already been pointed out, there is a "short kit" available for it. But I have found for mine that the only stage that's affected by the short hull is the crimp stage. For that I glued a penny on top of a quarter and it raises the hull the correct amount for crimping. I did two of these spacers for the starter crimp stage and the final crimp stage and it only cost me $0.52.
That drilling looks like the barrels might be nitro proofed but you should still look for a lower pressure load for any 114 year old gun. 7625 is a good choice but like most shotgun powders it's hard to find these days. And there were reports earlier this year that it's going to be discontinued. That would be a shame for those of us that use it for low pressure loads. My opinion is use the Guilandi SG-16 wad with a 7/8 oz load for a nice easy shooting load and go have fun. |
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Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:14 am
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
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Location: Missouri
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I slugged the barrel and it's a 10.75. I'll check case dimensions after fireforming. I use 10-11 grains of Bullseye topped off with cream of Wheat and a .22 patch, bang=case. |
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Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:26 am
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Joined: 21 May 2010
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Location: Victoria BC Canada
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I love Drillings. Unfortunately I only have two O/Us, a Brno 304 and a Valmet .222/12ga, and two cape guns, a 12.7 x 44R and a 9.5 x 57R both with 16 guage.
There is an option for loading 2.5 " hulls with a regular press that doesn't require any additional equipment; The Hartin crimp!
http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15465&highlight=hartin |
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