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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Ponsness vs MEC |
Which is better a MEC Sizemaster or a Ponsness Warren 375C? |
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Posted:
Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:29 pm
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I have always used MEC Sizemasters for my single stage presses, but have also been intrigued with the Ponsness Warren 375C.
Has anyone ever used both?
Pros/Cons? |
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Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:59 pm
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I've used a few MEC Marks and they don't hold a candle to the PW, though I haven't used the Sizemaster. |
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Posted:
Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:12 pm
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Location: Illinois
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Better???If better means less expensive,does the job ,is simple to adjust,parts readily avaliable most anywhere and more users to ask questions should the need arise---MEC |
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Posted:
Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:15 am
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Never used a Ponsness but have five MEC's. Looking forward to more comments from people that have used both! |
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Posted:
Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:14 am
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I have sizemasters and PW 375C.
I like both reloaders.
My cons and pros between the two.
Sizemaster.
Pros
Collet resizer. Primer tray
Cons.
changing dies for different gauges.
P/W
Pros
Changing gauges.
Cons
No primer tray.
resizing- uses die-not as good as sizemaster resizing.
Also when ejecting shells from die on P/W.
If one wants to load a light load of shot, the P/W can push the crimp too deep.
as a shaft pushes on the shell to eject from die. |
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Posted:
Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:52 pm
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I have used both for years. I now own 5 PW's and no mec loaders. The finished product from the PW's is as good or better than factory ammo. The versatility is far superior to any other loader. For instance, I can load 16ga 2.75" shells and 16ga 2.5" shells, both with perfect crimps, on the same loader. I did have to buy a 16ga die and shorten it by.25" but that was easy. I also prep all my hulls with a mec supersizer before I load them, but that would get done any way. All my 375's cost me less than $100.00 ea. |
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Posted:
Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:11 pm
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3crosses wrote: |
Also when ejecting shells from die on P/W.
If one wants to load a light load of shot, the P/W can push the crimp too deep.
as a shaft pushes on the shell to eject from die.
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My P/W is a progressive with probably that same system of pushing out shells that can collapse a crimp inward with certain loadings. I found a way to combat that was to purchase a super sizer and pre-size cases. They press into the dies a whole lot easier as well, and likely run through guns a bit better. |
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Posted:
Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:13 pm
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Location: NCWa
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I agree on the sizing issue with the PW dies- the shell is much easier to push out of the last/first station and so less pressure is put on the crimp. |
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:27 pm
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I sold my Mec's now have two PW 375's. One 16/20 other 12/10. It's a good solution for me. Machines are pleasant to use easy pulls, less bench space too. No issues with the Mec's though good presses.
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:21 pm
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I have had both , sold the PW .
I like the Mec's for the pros that 3crosses stated and because it is just way easier for me .
I can get as good of crimps with them as any factory load . |
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Posted:
Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:24 pm
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I started on MEC and believe it was quicker than the 375 i got later. Quality of production is better but slower on the 375
I later blundered into a progressive PW in 16ga which can crank out the cheddite in bulk better than the 600Jr. But it is finicky to one hull type, wad, and load and once you get it adjusted to it, don't mess with it.
I tried MAGTECH brass and did not like them at all for smokeless.
I find that i have fallen in love with the RMC brass and I rarely load plastic these days.
If i were recommending to a starting reloader, it would always be the 600Jr with powder bushings, then once blooded to a universal bar. After a few years then consider moving onto to quality 375 if they really get into it. |
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Posted:
Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:39 pm
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hoashooter wrote: |
Better???If better means less expensive,does the job ,is simple to adjust,parts readily avaliable most anywhere and more users to ask questions should the need arise---MEC
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Amen to that. |
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Posted:
Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:39 pm
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16gaugeguy wrote: |
hoashooter wrote: |
Better???If better means less expensive,does the job ,is simple to adjust,parts readily avaliable most anywhere and more users to ask questions should the need arise---MEC
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Amen to that.
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Congratulations 16gg, you actually responded to a post in less than three paragraphs!
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Posted:
Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:10 pm
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Thanks guys!!! |
_________________ Mark |
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Posted:
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:53 pm
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Joined: 20 Feb 2014
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Location: Festus, Missouri
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I am a new convert to the 375c. I just listed my sizemaster for sale so I can purchase the tooling head for 16 and 28 ga.
I LOVE the 375! I feel like I am cheating on MEC, I have used their products forever. |
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