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Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 863 Location: NoDak

Hi, I'm looking for a low pressure 1 1/8oz recipe, 7000psi or so and a MV of 1200fps. I want to use the following componants:

2 3/4" Cheddite Hull

800-X powder

Win 209 Primer

Can't seem to find one on some of the spreadsheets available. So, if anyone has something like this, I'd sure appreciate the info.

Thanks!

Greg

Why the need for that low of pressure?

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 863 Location: NoDak

Hi, I need a low pressure load for some of my short chambered English guns. I like a 1 1/8oz payload when I hunt pheasants. Got plenty of recipes for 1oz.

Thanks!

Greg

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2169 Location: Florida

Don,t think you will get that low of pressure with 800x at 1200 fps , need a slower powder . Maybe Longshot , Steel , or Blue Dot .

Yes, with 800X and 1 1/8 ounce, you will be getting around 10,000 psi

Mike

Member Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 989 Location: Las Vegas

GJW, I would point out that Nick, on the "9 for hunting " thread said "recoil is the enemy of old guns. Not pressure. I agree with him. However, I also strive to keep pressure down. I would also add that 1 1/8 oz load at 1200fps is a stout load in a (2 1/2".) English gun. (6 +/- lb?). Is the gun proofed for such a load? I limit myself to 1oz loads around 1150 +\- in my english guns for hunting. Above that, I reach for my Sweet 16.

Matt

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 863 Location: NoDak

Hi all, I do agree that recoil can be the bane of a vintage gun. Recoil matters most with regards to wood and internal metal parts. Pressure is what effects bbls. If, IMO, the bbls, wood and the internal metal parts are sound, I don't think a few for lack of a better term "hotter" loads will harm the gun. As the load I'm seeking is for hunting only, few rounds will be fired. My English 16b's are all proofed under the Rules of 1954, and are in very good and sound condition (inside and out).

I kind of thought that when I first posted this, it would be a pie in the sky, but, can't hurt to ask.

Take care and thanks!

Greg

I concur with the sentiment that recoil is the enemy of old guns.

I believe every one of us has gone through the high velocity phase, higher than 1200.

If preservation of your gun is your dominant factor then stick to reducing recoil through moderate velocity (1100-1150) and light loads 1 oz and below.

Eventually experience teaches us 1100 to 1150 is enough. At some point i fell into the groove that all my loading targeted a velocity in the 1140-1150 range whether on clay or wild pheasants. It keeps my leads consistent and whether shooting 7/8 oz or 1 1/8 it is the same velocity. I no longer shoot 1 1/4 and normally shoot 1 oz or less.

Guest

Just another thought. Some 16's can take snotty 1 1/8 oz. loads, some can't. I hunt pheasant more than anything else these days and there's a reason why I have an equal amount of 16 and 12 gauge shotguns in my safe. Greg, you might want to simply reach for a stouter 16 or a 12 and limit that particular 16 to 1 oz loads.

Guest

Another possible solution would be to keep the shot size at 5 and drop the velocity down to 1000 - 1100 fps and get some tested at a lab.

Member Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 989 Location: Las Vegas

Greg: Check your PM.

Matt

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2169 Location: Florida