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Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

Does anybody know if ITX can be substituted in lead loads like Niceshot can ? Using lead shot wads and Data - 1500 psi . It weighs about the same as Niceshot and is soft enough to shoot through older barrels . so I am thinking it should work.????

Off the spread sheets these two tested loads are pretty much identical .

Cheddite 3/4 oz niceshot PB 18 Ched 209 DR 16 1261 7418 Dave Miller 16 gauge forum

Cheddite 3/4 oz ITX PB 18 Ched 209 DR 16 1264 7580 Dave Miller 16 gauge forum

Does anyone else have any that suggest the same ?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark

Joined: 26 Apr 2010 Posts: 3177 Location: NCWa

I haven't tried ITX, but from looking at the advertisements for it, I consider it too hard to be used in any of my guns, where as Nice, Hevi-shot Classic Double & TM work without problem.

There are two types of shot sold as ITX by Ballistic Products Inc: ITX Original-10, and ITX Extreme-13, the numbers pertaining to the purported density of the material. Original-10 is purported to be OK for barrels, while Extreme-13 is super hard and barrel protection is advised.

Original-10 is more like NiceShot. My measurements show the pellets I purchased to be 10.8 grams per cubic centimeter! -- about the same density as high-antimony lead shot. I found Extreme-13 to be only 12 grams per cubic centimeter -- in my opinion, not enough potential performance improvement over Original-10 to compensate for the disadvantages of higher hardness and cost.

I loaded both in 16 ga. for waterfowling with an old Model 12 I had Mike Orlen take out to about .005" choke. I did shoot some ducks with those shells last year, but I haven't shot ITX a lot. I extrapolated from lead shot loads with Original-10, and with Extreme-13 I used data for some Hevi-Shot loads. I know, I know . . . I'm a bad boy for doing that Rolling Eyes

, but I'm a long way from blowing up a Model 12 (where's the emoticon for "whistling in the dark"?).

I just don't believe that you can not use ITX 13 where steel shot is ok . Also , with wads like the Herter's , any load that is weight/weight out to be fine if the shot is enclosed . What can work in your favor is slowing a load works better for turkeys , but the tougher end is speeding up for waterfowl .

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

Not concerned with the ITX13

Just trying to get a comparison between ITX10 and niceshot , guess I should have specified .

Did not know that ITX 10 was harder than Niceshot , seems to be a lot harder .

Joined: 28 Aug 2014 Posts: 924 Location: Eastern Tennessee

Mark,

Not much help, but I myself was thinking this exact thing recently. I didn't ask the question, but did compare my cost options.

$67.40 for 2.2 lbs of nice shot ($33.70 per lb)

$164.78 for 7 lbs of ITX10 ($23.54 per lb)

I have read before people questioning the consistency of patterns for ITX since it is not circular, however, I've not seen the testing results only the suggested concern.

Member Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 592 Location: Minnesota

You might want to give BPI a call as they would be best to answer ITX related questions.

If you do a search there should be previous discussion threads on ITX, Nice Shot and Bismuth. I could be mistaken but I thought we discussed the differences maybe a year or two ago.

I shoot Original ITX-10 in my old guns without any concerns. It has similar density of lead. The pellets flatten about the same as 5% Antimony lead in my arbor press. Not cheap but not as expensive to shoot as some nontoxic options. It is magnetic. I've been pleased with kills of pheasants and ducks. I like size #4 quite well.

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

Member Joined: 02 Sep 2010 Posts: 829 Location: SW Ohio

I have noticed the Nice Shot forum on shotgun world is gone. Website still up but nothing in stock. Anyone know if Nice shot is going to continue??
RSI sell E-shot which they claim is barrel friendly, they also have a heavyweight shot that is not so barrel friendly.

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

Two days ago Niceshot was still on SW .

Never shot any E shot but , I did buy some ,when I did a crush test with a pair of pliers , It is quit soft and it breaks all apart, very fragmentable .
The guy from RSI said you have run it really fast to keep it from doing that , but I feel it will fragment when it hits anything solid like bone.

Joined: 05 Feb 2015 Posts: 267 Location: New Braunfels TX

I bought a bag of #4 E-shot with a manual. The only loads I can find are 12 ga and 3" 20 ga. Who needs 3" in a 20 or 12??
I will make you a deal if you want it. My cost was $215. for the shot, I'll throw the manual in for nothing. Make me an offer!!

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

I've got some E-shot 5's I'd like to get rid of .

Joined: 17 Mar 2013 Posts: 27

what kind of 5's & how much $ ?

Member Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 2168 Location: Florida

American E- shot