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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ 2016 Birds, Dogs, 16ga guns and such pictures |
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:10 am
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Location: Maine
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One from the week of Columbus Day, way Down East.
This bull was taken by a friend. I was along as one of the spotters and strong backs needed to get it from where it dropped - blessedly, near the road - into the pickup. It weighed 653 lb field dressed at the check station, which put it just under 800 lb live weight.
My friend, in the picture, holds the gun he used. It was an 1880-ish vintage cape gun from a maker in Suhl. The right, rifle barrel - steel - was chambered in 11.5x50R, an old BP cartridge. The shotgun barrel - twist - was a 16 ga. After fixing one of the hammers, broken a long time ago, he spent the summer getting ready. He made his own cases, cast his own bullets and worked up his own loads - 365 grain cast bullet at about 1400 fps. One of those from about 90 yards put the bull down in its tracks - almost somersaulted it and broke its spine. The finisher was a home-cast 16 ga round ball lung shot from the left barrel.
I've had some exceptionally good eating from this moose, better than a lot of good beef. And this trip made for a great hunting season.
I hope you had one, too. |
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:57 pm
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Fantastic report and picture
Thank you for sharing
Mike |
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:38 pm
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 1943
Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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Damn. It's easy to see why the animal is called a "moose". Nice gun and account of making his own ammo. Gil |
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:15 am
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Joined: 12 Sep 2010
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Location: Maine
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Gil S wrote: |
Damn. It's easy to see why the animal is called a "moose". Nice gun and account of making his own ammo. Gil
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I wish I had a better picture of the gun to share, but I don't. The grip is carved, not checkered, and it has the horn grip on the lower tang like many other German guns of its era. Really a pretty gun. And a 16.
As to the size, keep in mind, that's a relatively young one, 2 or 3 years old. Add another 200 to 400 pounds to the dressed weight for a mature bull. If he was larger, I don't know whether we 4 could have loaded him. As it was, we used a come-along and tow straps, first around the antlers and then under the "armpits" to drag him up the ramps and into the bed of the truck, and it took us the better part of 2 hours. For those interested in doing likewise, keep in mind that the sides of the bed, where the tie-offs for the come-along are, bowed inward under the weight. Fortunately, it was elastic and not plastic deformation, but it was yet another example of why older pickup trucks are better than newer. They don't bend when you use them as actual trucks. |
_________________ “A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867, speech in Williamsport, Pa. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:33 pm
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Joined: 16 Jul 2015
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Location: Hudson,Wy
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Late to the party again, but here goes: some "regular" hunt photos and some not.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:34 pm
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:36 pm
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Location: Hudson,Wy
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Still going...
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:38 pm
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Location: Hudson,Wy
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Hope y'all like these.
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:01 am
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Location: Kelso, Tennessee
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Great stuff! Thanks |
_________________ i reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war. |
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:02 am
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Joined: 09 Jan 2013
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Location: Florida
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WyoChukar, Super photos . That is one beautiful pup you have . I wish I had more opportunity to chase wild pheasant and grouse , that part of country is a long way from where I live.
Thanks for sharing. |
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:46 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 1943
Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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WyoC, great photos. Interesting use of the Border Collie. Does the dog point, flush or herd? Gil |
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:59 am
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Location: Minnesota
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Great photos WYOchuckar. What camera do you use? |
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:14 am
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Location: Hudson,Wy
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Gil, that is an interesting question with an interesting answer. He is both a flusher and a pointer...sort of. What I have done really throws a wrench to the pointer vs. flusher debate.
Rusty naturally flushes but if I don't want him to flush the birds yet I command him to "sit". This way, as long as I am paying attention I get the benefits of both a pointer and a flusher. I guess that makes him a "Scottish Sitter". The idea came to me last year while chukar hunting and I figured "why not?".
Savage, I use a couple of Canon cameras. My full frame is a 6D which I use that for scenics and the like. Most of my wildlife photos are taken with a 70D. I use a 17-40 lens with the 6D and either a 70-200 for hunter action photos or a 400 for the wildlife stuff.
I will say that shooting birds with a shotgun is immensely easier than it is with the camera. I don't require much cooperation when I use the gun! A 400mm lens sounds like a lot, but realistically it is like using a .410 shotgun. Birds have to be that close. Then there is the matter of finding them in the view finder if they are in flight...a fun and rewarding challenge. |
_________________ Only catch snowflakes on your tongue AFTER the birds fly south for the winter... |
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:48 am
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Location: Tappahannock, Virginia
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Gil S wrote: |
WyoC, great photos. Interesting use of the Border Collie. Does the dog point, flush or herd? Gil
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When I saw the pic, I thought it was a young, well run Toller.... |
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:51 pm
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Joined: 08 Mar 2016
Posts: 120
Location: South Dakota
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Wow great pictures!!! Must be a heck of a story behind the picture with the coyote and mixed bag of all those birds? |
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