16ga.com ~ View topic - Rifleman Article

Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 171 Location: VA

Catching up on my reading last night, this article was on the agenda:

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/9/21/editors-test-new-browning-ammo/

Found it some where on the disappointing side of interesting that such emphasis was placed upon the shot shells being "non-reloadable".

Granted, as much as I like my Brownings, I'm not such a fan-boy that the ammo is all that interesting to me.

Commentary from folks that shoot a box of it to see if they are a Cheddite or similar hulls would be appreciated.

Member Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 3438 Location: Illinois

Bought a box of 20's-no other gauge in stock.Looks like a Cheditte primer,smooth hull resembles the cheap Winny promo hull.

When it comes to modern plastic shot shells, there is really no such thing as non-reloadable. All can be safely reloaded if we understand how it's done.

True, some hulls are designed with reloadability in mind. Typically these premium grade hulls are compression formed one piece types which usually last longer and are easier to re-crimp. But as many of us here already understand, even the lowly econo grade polyformed hulls like Cheddites and other closely similar polyformed hulls are reloadable. These el cheapos may require more knowledge and skill to get the best out of them and usually can't be reloaded more than a few times before the hull mouths split. But they are certainly better than none at all.

Best learn what's what and how to use what's available IMO. Either that or be at the mercy of the corporate wolves and their disinformation. Cool

PS: Polyformed plastic hulls pre-date compression formed hulls by a decade or more. They were reloadable back then, and they are now.

I would not attempt to reload these hulls unless I could find data for them. Just because they may be similar to some other hull, similar is not the same. If there is no data, then don't take a chance. If there is data, then have at it.
xvigauge

Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 171 Location: VA

@ hoashooter --- The resemblance of the win promo doesn't' surprise me. Seems like the author was drinking the promo Kool-Aid on the "it's not Winchester ammo". Just the same, glad to see more options / competition in the 16 gauge ammo market.

@ 16gaugeguy -- We're singing from the same hymnal.

@ XVIgauge -- Words of caution appreciated. The volume of RGLs in the inventory awaiting a first reload eliminates this problem for me at the moment.

happy shooting
jpm

All of the above written by 16gguy may be true, BUT, the fact remains that there is no published data on reloading the mentioned Browning hulls. If there was, he would have mentioned it instead of going through a detailed litany of measuring, weighing, comparing, cutting, etc. The golden rule in reloading is DO NOT substitute components. What is the point in taking a chance on questionable hulls when so many appropriate ones (with data) are available? We spend 100's and sometimes 1000's of dollars on nice shotguns and then want to save a few pennies on hulls? What he is suggesting is unsafe reloading practices. Steer clear of such advice and I personally would not want to be near anyone who is shooting potentially dangerous reloads.
xvigauge

Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 287 Location: missouri

That's my point. "If they are..."
cottontop

I guess it's a good thing we ain't in Florida 16GAwaterfowler. We wouldn't want to scare the pants of him w/ our terrifyingly dangerous reloads. Laughing

Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 287 Location: missouri

Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 287 Location: missouri

Now I know why I came back to this forum. It is such a pleasant and friendly place and lots of posters who never wrote the book but who know more than the guys who did write the books. I now feel so informed and enlightened. Still waiting to see the data.
xvigauge

Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 287 Location: missouri

Guest

...and my favorite old Federal..."Hiawatha." (sold by Gambles as noted)