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Griffon
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:58 pm  Reply with quote



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Looking for a recommendation on 16ga non toxic ammunition either factory or reloads.
it will be used in a A5. Thanks

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skeettx
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:19 pm  Reply with quote
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WELL, you did not mention the use of the non-tox,
but here goes Smile

Nice Shot

http://www.rstshells.com/store/c/19-16-Gauge.aspx

Bismuth Smile

http://www.cabelas.com/product/KENT-BISMUTH-SHOTSHELLS-PER-BOX/2263462.uts

16 Gauge 2-3/4" MAX 1 oz. # 5 1,200 Regular Price: $15.99 In Stock

16 Gauge 2-3/4" MAX 1 oz. # 6 1,200 Regular Price:
$15.99 In Stock


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Hootch
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:44 pm  Reply with quote



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I have a stock of Kent Tungsten Matrix, but hoarding it, have been using Kent Bismuth #5's to good effect this fall. I have no complaints. (although there are some pheasants not quite as pleased with it)
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Griffon
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:39 am  Reply with quote



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Going to be used on waterfowl. RST $75.00 a box WOW! must be loaded with diamond chips. At $3.00 a pop I'd either concentrate real hard or just be hearing the cash register go off each time I miss.
I did watch a fellow once shoot 23 times to kill a eider (sea duck). I checked him later at the ramp and commended him for seeing it through to the end. He stated $46.00 of the miracle Hevi Shot to finish off that cripple. Eiders and Loons have about the same table quality.
Have you tried the Federal ammo Mike?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:27 am  Reply with quote
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Rio Bis 4 & 6 Able Ammo $1.90/ Rnd Load your own 1oz for 1.60

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skeettx
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:34 am  Reply with quote
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Me?

I shoot plain old Steel shot shells for my ducks.

But I have a good location, good canoe, good decoy spread, and
am a good caller Embarassed
So skeet or IC choke and steel shot at close range does the deal.

Mike

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double vision
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:37 am  Reply with quote
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Hootch wrote:
I have a stock of Kent Tungsten Matrix, but hoarding it, have been using Kent Bismuth #5's to good effect this fall. I have no complaints. (although there are some pheasants not quite as pleased with it)


Hootch, good to hear the Kent bismuth 5's are working out! I haven't used any yet this year, but I've been very curious about their field performance on roosters.
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popplecop
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Shoot steel mostly also. But we handload 3s and 5s in steel to.

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JonP
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:23 pm  Reply with quote



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Used Kent Bismuth 5s in my old Sauer and the Simson...very happy with the results.
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AmericanMeet
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The thought of using steel shot in an old SxS makes me faint of heart.
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Hootch
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:46 pm  Reply with quote



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Last year I used Rio BIsmuth in my 12's wasn't sold on 1200fps Rio Bismuth in the 16ga.
Kent's bismuth #5 at 1300+fps n the 16ga does the trick on pheasant so far. Acts much like the Rio bismuth in the 12ga.

Less than two months left in the season, we will see how it does on late season birds!
But I am thinking it will do fine, #5 hard to beat.
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bc993
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:08 pm  Reply with quote



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The Kent Bismuth 16g at 1300 fps 1 oz is the real deal! Two years ago I was given a Box of RIO bismuth which was a box of 25 from a shot show rep. Used them on preserve pheasants and Michigan's first early teal season. They didn't impress but functioned fine for the purpose. I will be looking at Able to see if they have RIO in stock as my Phez club requires no-tox and the Kents are overkill. Kent bismuth was excellent on ducks this past fall. Wish they could bump it up to 1 1/8 but not sure there's room in the hull. Anyone reloading Bismuth in 1 1/8th? I seemed to recall the original bismuth company made a 1 1/8th load.
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JPM98VMI
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:02 am  Reply with quote



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An alternate source for the Kent Bismuth at a few pennies less per round, excluding shipping of course:

http://www.huntstuff.com/products/Kent%20Cartridge/bismuth.html

Granted, it's in 100 round case quantity.
While I have yet to try this vendor, they are listed on the Kent site as a source.
Regards,
jpm

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Rick O
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:34 pm  Reply with quote
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I find TungstenMatrix 1-1/16 fives about the best for ducks via my 16's.

It's "same as lead", but Sporting Ammo steel 3's have been my mainstay for last several seasons, usually through a Briley MOD choked Model 12 and they work Just Fine...

I shot a lot of ducks with Winchester and Bismuth brand 1-1/8oz #4 Bismuth maybe ten years ago now? and it was fine too, and one season loaded up a bunch of that ITX #4 in 7/8oz

With all of them, I think that if you hit 'em, they usually go down.
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Ohio Wirehair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:41 pm  Reply with quote



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Cabela's has the Kent Bismuth on sale right now cheaper then you can load your own. Works very well out of my 37. Killed mallards and a goose with it during the first half of our season. Like them #5's.
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