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< 16ga. Guns ~ New Sweet 16 - 28" or 26" Barrels? |
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:12 pm
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Location: NW Arkansas
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I mostly hunt, and mostly hunt quail. Thus, I bought a 26 inch SW16. Prior to this purchase, the gun of the pack below that I shot the best on quail (and pheasants too) was my 26 inch Citori.
There is a world of difference in the length of the sighting plane (and overall length) between the two guns, all because of the receiver on the SW16; i.e. 34 inches vs. 26 inches. In fact, the receiver on the SW 16 is right at 8 inches long (with a bolt opening that obviously could eject a much longer shell than 2.75 inches!). Stands to reason if I shoot the Citori best of the lot below, then I probably will shoot the 26 inch SW16 better than a 28, given the type of hunting I do.
Have used the SW16 three times on quail now, and seem to be doing all right with it (other than the one time I hung the barrel on a limb trying to shoot a single). However, it is a totally different feel compared to a much shorter Citori (or SxS).
My advise, choose your barrel length based on what you shoot. Pass shooting or clays, go with a 28; quail, grouse, over dogs, go with a 26. |
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Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:52 pm
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Keep in mind that the OAL of the new A5's is longer than you might expect. I handled both of the Sweet 16's and decided on the 26".
A few years ago I posted a comparison of the OAL differences between the 12ga A5's and the 12ga Maxus shotguns. I had bought a 28" A5 in 12ga and found it to be a lot longer than the 28" Maxus I had. I ended up getting a 26" instead.
Here is a link to the post with pictures:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=362263
Updating that info to include the new Sweet 16 and the Citori 16ga based on my measurements, here is a comparison:
26" Citori 16ga. - 43" OAL - 26" Sight plane
26" Maxus 12ga. – 47” OAL - 31-1/2" Sight plane
26” new A5 16ga. - 47-3/8” OAL – 34” Sight plane
26" new A5 12ga. – 47-5/8” OAL - 34-1/8" Sight plane
28" Citori 16ga. - 45" OAL - 28" Sight plane
28" Maxus 12ga. – 49” OAL - 33-1/2" Sight plane
28” new A5 16ga. - 49-3/8” OAL – 36” Sight plane
28" new A5 12ga. – 49-5/8” OAL - 36-1/8" Sight plane
The A5's are noticeably longer than the Maxus and way longer than the Citori's. The difference in the sight plane is even more noticeable.
Hope this helps.
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Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:20 pm
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Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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Location: Great White North
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Here's a pic showing the different lengths of 3 different Browning 16g guns, a 28" Citori Lightning, the new A5 Sweet with 28"bbl' and a 26" BPS Medallion. While the new A5 Sweet definitely is a long gun, especially compared to the Citori, to me it doesn't feel long when in the hands, and I find it points exceptionally well.
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Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:51 pm
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Long is good, especially with light shotguns. |
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:26 am
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Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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I shot my Sweet with (26" barrel) for the 1st time yesterday at skeet -- shot 3 24'rs and a 22. Love the little gun! One note is that it didn't like Herters light loads (1100 fps+ something). I'm hoping that after a break in period of heavy loads the Herters will work. Btw -- impressed with the lack of felt recoil -- very light.
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:45 am
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Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Location: Maine
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Let me stir the pot a little since it's snowing out and I'm bored. My opinion only, buy the barrels you can swing effectively. This notion that you need 24-26 inch barrels to hunt grouse and woodcock is a fantasy. I've lived and hunted birds in Maine for over 40 years behind pointing and flushing dogs. I've always been fortunate enough to be able to get out often. In those years I can can remember about 3 times I clanked a tree with my barrels. I hunt with 29-30 inch barrels. If your cover is so thick you can't swing a gun how do you walk in it? Longer barrels for me equal a better sight plain. I need a heavier gun for a better swing. I tried a few rounds of skeet with a 5lb 28ga AYA. Turned out to be a waste of perfectly good ammo, to light, to whippy. Try before you buy. Either way with that nice new SW A5 you're going to look good even when you miss. |
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:11 am
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Location: Maine
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I'd go with a 30" barrel if they offered one. I'll have to figure out a hull catching device, to keep Griffon from stealing my hulls |
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:30 am
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Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Griffon wrote: |
Let me stir the pot a little since it's snowing out and I'm bored. My opinion only, buy the barrels you can swing effectively. This notion that you need 24-26 inch barrels to hunt grouse and woodcock is a fantasy. I've lived and hunted birds in Maine for over 40 years behind pointing and flushing dogs. I've always been fortunate enough to be able to get out often. In those years I can can remember about 3 times I clanked a tree with my barrels. I hunt with 29-30 inch barrels. If your cover is so thick you can't swing a gun how do you walk in it? Longer barrels for me equal a better sight plain. I need a heavier gun for a better swing. I tried a few rounds of skeet with a 5lb 28ga AYA. Turned out to be a waste of perfectly good ammo, to light, to whippy. Try before you buy. Either way with that nice new SW A5 you're going to look good even when you miss.
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Totally agree -- the New Brunswick covers that I hunt are similar and some are so thick that the pup has difficulty. I usually have a 16GA 28"barrled Merkel or a 28" SKB Model 100 on hand and I feel that I'm not hampered by barrel length -- took the 28' A5 Sweet because that's all I could get -- The Dealer could not guarantee more as he had received his allotment. |
Last edited by grouser47 on Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:14 pm; edited 2 times in total _________________ A pointing dog and a 16GA -- It doesn't get better than this |
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:03 pm
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Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Location: Maine
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Mr. Pumpgun is probably the finest sporting clays shot at our club. Young and agile I have no doubt in my mind that he could shoot somewhere in the high twenties while catching the hulls as they come out of that 16ga M 12. The only drawback is that he is a doctor, a proctologist to be exact. Your M 12 could be ejecting $100 bills and I would not bend over to pick them up. Your hulls are safe. |
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:12 pm
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Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Griffon wrote: |
Mr. Pumpgun is probably the finest sporting clays shot at our club. Young and agile I have no doubt in my mind that he could shoot somewhere in the high twenties while catching the hulls as they come out of that 16ga M 12. The only drawback is that he is a doctor, a proctologist to be exact. Your M 12 could be ejecting $100 bills and I would not bend over to pick them up. Your hulls are safe.
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I know David well -- Proud to call him a friend & am in awe of his prowess with a Model 12! |
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:31 pm
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Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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Location: Maine
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Touche, Griffon, I guess I miss the days when you referred to me as Dr. Kevorkian |
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:09 pm
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Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Location: Maine
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A kinder, gentler me Mr. Pumpgun |
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