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< 16ga. Guns ~ 16 gauge shells sticking in chamber. |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:23 am
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Joined: 22 Feb 2007
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Location: Massachusetts
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I have a Remington model 31, 16 gauge pump. The fired shells stick in the chamber. My reloads wont fit in the chamber.
This must be due to the steel based shells. Is there any place I can get brass based 16 gauge shells?
I know I can probably do a better job of resizing the reloads, but if it sticks in the chamber after firing, it isn't much help.
I have already tried polishing the chamber with a flex hone, that didn't do much good.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Pete |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:33 am
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:54 am
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Joined: 30 Sep 2015
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Location: NEW SALISBURY INDIANA
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I have the same problem with my win 37`s, they have a tight chamber. factory loads and reloads using my mec are ok, but reloads from my lee load all stick, so now I size all my reloads with my mec and no more problems. I use rem game load hulls |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:50 am
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Joined: 22 Feb 2007
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Location: Massachusetts
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Thanks for the replies.
I am using the Mec 9000 press.
I was thinking about getting a MEC SuperSizer for resizing, before running them through the loader, but the collet on the Supersizer looks the same as on the 9000 press.
I just re-adjusted the sizing collet on the Mec 9000 and the shells that I loaded seem to fit in the chamber easily, but I don't know if they will come out as easily when I fire them.
The weather is pretty nasty here today, so I think I'll try shooting some skeet with the newly sized reloads tomorrow.
Thanks again to all who replied. Pete |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:41 am
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Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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Location: Central CT
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SxSman,
There is no point buying a MEC Supersizer as your 9000 has a supersizer (same exact collet) at the first station.
The collet should be set to resize your hulls to .740" - .738"
Maximum cartridge is .744" Minimum chamber is .745" measured at the edge of the chamber. As I am sure you are aware chambers are tapered so trying to measure the actual chamber size is somewhat difficult unless you are taking a mold of the chamber.
Most of the folks that think they have chambers under the minimum probably haven't measured their chambers accurately or their reloads accurately. Under min chambers blamed on worn tooling is probably incorrect. Chambers are usually reamed to size and reamers do not wear evenly and when they do wear, it means they are dull and create other problems.......like rough chambers.
If factory ammo fits and ejects/extracts properly the problem is your sizing method not the shotguns chamber size.
Another item to be aware of is, just because brand X hull resizes to a given number do not expect all hull brands to resize to that number. 16 gauge Remington hulls are particularly difficult to resize and typically will measure slightly larger than other brands, even when run through the same sizer. I suggest you set your collet up to resize Federal or Cheddite hulls to the sizes I gave. You may never get a 16 Gauge Remington hull to resize down to .738" and if you do you may over stress the collet and end up buying a new collet.
I think that skeetx has the right idea when it comes to rough chambers. |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:31 am
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Joined: 22 Feb 2007
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Location: Massachusetts
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Dogchaser37, I am not going to buy a Supersizer as I stated in my previous post I looked at it and I saw that it was a collet resizer the same as on my 9000.
The gun does not have rough chambers,
I have tried several brands of shells (Black Remington, Cheddite and Federal) and none have cycled in the pump.
Maybe after adjusting the collet on my reloader I will have better luck.
Pete |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:31 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Location: Lowcountry Ga.
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Les Hovencamp, retired head gunsmith of old Ithaca, will re-cut the extractor/ejector notches in the barrels to remedy extractor/ejection issues. He had to do this on an old M37 of mine. Give him a call. Diamond Gunsmithing. Gil
http://diamondgunsmithing.com/ |
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Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:20 pm
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Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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Location: Central CT
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Sorry SxS, I thought you were thinking about buying the Supersizer. |
_________________ Mark |
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:54 am
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Joined: 22 Feb 2007
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Location: Massachusetts
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Well thanks for the replies "Dogchaser 37" and all others who replied.
I tried the gun on skeet yesterday after adjusting the collet on my re-loader and polishing the chamber a little more and the gun worked as smooth as silk. I had no problems at all.
Thanks again for all your replies. Pete |
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