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grouser47
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:21 pm  Reply with quote



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Anyone try this?
Federal Hull 2 4/4
CCI 209
Remington R16
10Z Lead
19 grains Red Dot
1330 FPS

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:11 am  Reply with quote
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No, but might, looks like it has potential as a nice Trap round, thanks for sharing. My concern would be powder migration if used as a hunting shell since the Rem wads fit a somewhat loosely in Fed hulls.

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double vision
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:40 am  Reply with quote
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I'm probably all wet here, but that much Red Dot in a 1 oz. 16 gauge load seem iffy to me. Did the manual list the pressure? Seems potentially high pressure to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:21 am  Reply with quote



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my only Lyman is the #2 - used it to ref the super mag . This load uses a mild primer , a mild wad and a large cap case , so it's probably fine as published . Also , RD is a flake powder that could also work . This could fall into one of those loads that COULD have a good consistency or maybe not . It was/is common for the Rem wads to be listed with sev diff cases as there wasn't much of a variety back then .( the Rem loads listed in this book , are the old strait walled / fiber base cases with the 109 primers . Rem cases were thicker even back then )


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grouser47
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:29 am  Reply with quote



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I actually found this in the 16ga reloaders site. The pressure is quite strong at 10,350 but still below SAAMI max pressure. I think max pressure is a bit above 11,200? Wanted to try it in a semi

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:36 am  Reply with quote
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It's probably fine then, but only because it's based on a sloppy wad fit. Not a load I would pursue, but who knows?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:39 am  Reply with quote
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Theere certainly are better powders for 1oz in the 16ga.
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grouser47
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:03 am  Reply with quote



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fn16ga wrote:
Theere certainly are better powders for 1oz in the 16ga.


Yep, and I do use other powders such as unique/long shot/u clays -- I do have 24lbs of Red dot and at the low prices of 12ga competition loads I haven't been loading for 12.

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elmo123
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I have used this particular load and it shot quite well out of my BPS at 16 yds but not so well out of my 870. If it is all you have I would go ahead and give it a try but Green Dot and 700X worked better than Red Dot.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:28 pm  Reply with quote



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Shot it today at skeet #9 lead out of my A5 Sweet Sixteen -- killed hell out of clays.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:13 pm  Reply with quote



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Lyman's 3rd edition lists that load at 1325 fps and 10,300 L.U.P. which doesn't equate to 10,300 psi. Bear in mind that readings in psi are usually higher but from what I have read there is no direct conversion factor to calculate the difference and that it will vary a bit. If nothing else, backing down .5 grain on the powder charge should leave plenty of velocity and still cycle a semi.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:24 pm  Reply with quote



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WyoChukar wrote:
Lyman's 3rd edition lists that load at 1325 fps and 10,300 L.U.P. which doesn't equate to 10,300 psi. Bear in mind that readings in psi are usually higher but from what I have read there is no direct conversion factor to calculate the difference and that it will vary a bit. If nothing else, backing down .5 grain on the powder charge should leave plenty of velocity and still cycle a semi.


I was mistaken! Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:53 am  Reply with quote
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Sounds like you have a good load , If had 24lbs of RD I'd be trying use it too. Although it might be better suited for 3/4 -7/8oz and save money on lead at the same time
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