Cheddite 1-1/16 oz. Green Dot 19.0 Ched 209 BPI Z 16 1240 11,000 BPI
Looking through the RFS manual it is pretty obvious that if you want/need to throw that much lead at that those speeds out of a 16ga you might look toward getting some slower burning powders, BD, Herco, 800x, etc. were all listed.
Oh & just in case you're shooting a light field gun, can also recommend;
Green Dot is a poor choice of powder for 1 1/8oz , and don't think you will get any where close to 1250 fps with it . I know nothing about 20/28 for the 16ga , doubt you will find any data for 1 1/8 oz . Longshot and 800x are much better powders for that application .
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I agree with the others that Green Dot is not ideal for 1 1/8 oz loads, but here's one that has been working well for myself and member Black Belt. He's seriously reduced the rabbit population with these and has crushed a number of pheasants using nickel-plated 6's or 6.5's. I haven't had a chance to use them much because I have so much good factory ammo I'm working through, but he's been praising these loads for years.
Source: Precision Reloading Manual
Primer: Win 209
Shot: 1 1/8 oz.
Powder: Green Dot 16.8 gr. (I load 17.0)
Wad: B&P (known as Z16 or Field Commander)
Pressure: 9510 psi
I wouldn't put any more powder in than the 16.8- 17.0 or the pressure will escalate fast. the very low 1200's fps is IT for velocity with Green Dot. That said, these have worked well in very cold weather
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Dave , that looks like a good load , 1200 fps is plenty fast enough and you have tested field experience with it , which I like . I just never though of Green dot for 1 1/8oz , might have to give that one a try , thanks for the info .
Thanks, guys. This is the kind of info I need. I have some Blue Dot on my handgun reloading bench, so will try that first. I'll pick up some 800x or Longshot if necessary.
I have a very specific application for these loads.
The vast majority of my 16 ga. shooting is 7/8 - 1 oz. loads at +/- 1,200 fps.
However, after much trial with factory and handloads, I learned that on long, difficult targets on the sporting clays course, I am most successful using Nobel Sport 1 1/16 oz. factory loads at 1,330.
Since my MEC 118 charge bar throws a an actual shot charge of 1 1/16 oz., I reasoned that if I can load that to around 1,300 I will have a pretty good mimic of the NS factory load.
Regarding powders, I use Am. Select for 12 ga target loads and for 3/4 and 7/8 oz. loads in the 16 ga. 20/28 is the trick for 1 oz. 16 ga. and for 20 and 28 ga. When AS and 20/28 ran short, I picked up some Green Dot and that does it all in place of both AS and 20/28.
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