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JNW
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:50 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Location: Twin Cities, MN

Looked at and talked to the small munsterlander people at Pheasant Fest. I am heavily leaning towards getting one of these. Found a litter with puppies still available, but have to make up my mind soon. I was confused by the fact that there is a Kleine Munsterlander group and a seperate Small Munsterlander organization. The Small group has their own North American umbrella organization while the Kleine group still uses the German parent organization, requiring judges from Europe to certify breeding dogs here. Geez,with so few dogs in North America you'd think they could get along. Sounds like both groups do a really good job with the breed, so in my mind not any real difference between them.
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Jeff
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JonP
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:11 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 13 Dec 2006
Posts: 621
Location: MN

IMO...The only organization that has a chance of keeping the KLM as it was conceived will be the German club. In my experience, the domestic clubs that have been formed around the Euro breeds have dropped a lot of the work and regulations that govern the German clubs. Over time, you get two variations of a breed such as has occurred with the Deutsch-Drahthaar and the GWP. After 40+ years in versatiles, the accent on calmness that is needed to get to the highest levels in German testing is a huge plus in my mind. For the most part, US clubs are 90% bird work with a nod to duck hunting. That was never the concept for any of the German versatiles. To me it wouldn't make sense to support an organization that has different priorities. I would rather wish them well and commit to those that are working for a similar goal.
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JNW
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:36 pm  Reply with quote



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Location: Twin Cities, MN

Maybe I'll just get a lab. Oh, wait - regular, English or pointing?
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Jakeismydog2
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:46 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 15 Mar 2015
Posts: 106
Location: Manhattan KS

JNW wrote:
Maybe I'll just get a lab. Oh, wait - regular, English or pointing?


Now that made me smile.
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jschultz
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:14 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 07 Apr 2007
Posts: 1554
Location: northwewst Wyoming

If you google Small Munsterlander you will see a medium sized dog that looks surprisingly like my Annie, a tricolor French Brittany except the SM has a long tail.
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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:59 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 16 Jul 2015
Posts: 511
Location: Hudson,Wy

Sassy sure looked like the dogs in the photos, but more of an orange and white. Perhaps...

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NY16ga
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:39 pm  Reply with quote



Joined: 10 Aug 2009
Posts: 165
Location: New York

That's great, I love these little guys. I had never seen one up close and personal until I moved to NY and met a guy who breeds them. He's a better grouse hunter than I'll ever be and takes those SMs very seriously. Really personable dogs too, my GWP has a blast playing with them when we cross paths at the dog park.
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Hootch
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:11 am  Reply with quote



Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1256
Location: Eagle, Nebraska

Mayzee and I are getting along quite well. We will be doing a clean up hunt after a European hunt next Sunday, so that should be interesting. She loves pheasants.

Gets a little crazy when she gets into a flock. No lack of ability or interest,
Very friendly dog, HAS to be where I am, sleeps in bed with wife and I.

Love her already, and she will be good bird dog this fall even. It will be her first fall on prairie chickens, pheasants and quail, so a lot of learning and experiences ahead.

I have strong impression that no bird shot will be lost. Very strong dead bird instinct with her. My former KLM, Dayzee, lost 3 birds in 14 1/2 years. I will take those stats
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