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Dannyboy175
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:21 pm  Reply with quote



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I posted a question before about suggestions for tables for gun cleaning and maintenance for a small room in my basement that I'm dedicating for my various hunting, shooting, etc. Not a place I show off to people, but a simple, secure retreat to some of my favorite things.

I'm trying to decide how to store my guns in this room. Storing them horizontally has a better aesthetic, I think, but storing vertically is more space efficient. I'm also wondering about whether resting on the butt wouldn't be less potential for damage or wear over time than resting the forarm and stock on a rack.

Do any of you have any input here?

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The main issue I've considered in positioning guns is to try to keep the wood above the metal, to avoid gravity drawing oil/grease from the metal into the wood. so generally the guns appear to be upside-down.
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AmericanMeet wrote:
The main issue I've considered in positioning guns is to try to keep the wood above the metal, to avoid gravity drawing oil/grease from the metal into the wood. so generally the guns appear to be upside-down.


Interesting suggestion... Does that mean that you store them vertically with the barrel down or horizontally with the barrel/receiver resting on the rack? I guess there would be no metal in the stock to rest on, but then again no oil or grease either.

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I store mine in a gun cabinet muzzle down. Aside from oil/solvent not getting into the buttstock, it keeps recoil pads from compressing.
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Dannyboy175 wrote:
AmericanMeet wrote:
The main issue I've considered in positioning guns is to try to keep the wood above the metal, to avoid gravity drawing oil/grease from the metal into the wood. so generally the guns appear to be upside-down.


Interesting suggestion... Does that mean that you store them vertically with the barrel down or horizontally with the barrel/receiver resting on the rack? I guess there would be no metal in the stock to rest on, but then again no oil or grease either.


Most collectors who comment on the doublegun forums store muzzle down for the oil reason. When you start messing around with average 80-100-120 year old guns, just about the first thing that usually needs doing is a stock refinish that included removing the soaked in oil from the head of the stock and repairing the damage that it has caused or encouraged.

Once I learned how pervasive a problem this is, I immediately reconfigured the custom racks in my safe to accept the guns muzzle down.

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Vertical....resting on buttstock.
The scatterguns look at home that way, to me.
My 101 year-old Fox looks as comfortably nested as I do in a barcolounger.
Simple answer, do not over-oil.....and a silicon cloth works well on the exterior surfaces.
No problems ensue unless one searches for issues.

I do suspect that over-oiling and the 30 wt perhaps once used was more an issue in the past than now and I also suspect that any degradation of the, if any, recoil pad is unlikely to occur in our ownership lifetimes.
Or, stick the scattergun in any position that gives you pleasure and accept the negatives possible with each choice.

IF...a particular scattergun has some form of issue requiring special storage then one would, of course, follow the requirements.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:35 am  Reply with quote
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I started using Ballistol a few years ago, safe for wood metal and leather. It's not the worlds ultimate clp, but it is good enough for me. There may other clp type lubes that have the same compatibility out there too. Maybe Froglube? My guns never see salt air, and are usually sunny day service. Wiping down the less used guns every blue moon seems to keep them happy.
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tramroad28 wrote:
Vertical....resting on buttstock.
The scatterguns look at home that way, to me.
My 101 year-old Fox looks as comfortably nested as I do in a barcolounger.
Simple answer, do not over-oil.....and a silicon cloth works well on the exterior surfaces.
No problems ensue unless one searches for issues.

I do suspect that over-oiling and the 30 wt perhaps once used was more an issue in the past than now and I also suspect that any degradation of the, if any, recoil pad is unlikely to occur in our ownership lifetimes.
Or, stick the scattergun in any position that gives you pleasure and accept the negatives possible with each choice.

IF...a particular scattergun has some form of issue requiring special storage then one would, of course, follow the requirements.


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I store all mine resting on the muzzle due to the oil seepage issue. But I have also found that having the stocks up in the air seems to lessen the damage to the wood from safe "kisses".

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Yes, yes muzzle down is the proper way

BUT they look much better the other way in the gun vault room



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In a locked cabinet or safe, out of sight to casual guests, vertically, muzzle down, in a gunsock to avoid little accidents n dings. +1 on Ballistol!
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billwolfe wrote:
In a locked cabinet or safe, out of sight to casual guests, vertically, muzzle down, in a gunsock to avoid little accidents n dings. +1 on Ballistol!


The guy at my local mom and pop gun shop said that you should never store a gun inside a gun sock, as the fabric would retain moisture. I kind of thought it was odd, because they market the gun socks just for this kind of thing. What is the real scoop?

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I am a muzzle down guy too, and ballistol is my go to oil for all of my guns. It may look silly to have them "upside down", but it seems to really keep the oil out of the stocks and the dust out of the barrels. As a kid all of our guns were horizontal in the tops of closets, but that was more to keep them away from little hands.

I want to know how Mike keeps all those guns from rusting with all the drool in that room.
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Dannyboy175
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:40 am  Reply with quote



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skeettx wrote:
Yes, yes muzzle down is the proper way

BUT they look much better the other way in the gun vault room




That is quite impressive. I wouldn't have enough wall space to store all of those guns in my little room.

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bbrown wrote:
I am a muzzle down guy too, and ballistol is my go to oil for all of my guns. It may look silly to have them "upside down", but it seems to really keep the oil out of the stocks and the dust out of the barrels. As a kid all of our guns were horizontal in the tops of closets, but that was more to keep them away from little hands.
-Ben


OK, I will take everyone's advice about the Ballistol. I will also scrap the horizontal idea, but I'm still not convinced about muzzle down. It would seem to be unstable, even if I could get over the aesthetics of the situation. I'll have to look into examples/photos on the internet.

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