Joined: 11 Dec 2015
Location: Upstate, SC
I have a couple of cases of their prior generation load that I purchased years ago. They are marked as Ultimate Upland. The ones I have shot are 1 oz of 7-1\2. I use them on grouse and quail in a Citori Superlight. To be honest, I have not really paid attention to the recoil. They are good shells in my opinion, but I would not consider them a light field load. In #6, I would not hesitate to use them as a 1st barrel load for early season pheasants.
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
In the old terminology for describing loads, Dakotazeb, what you describe would be the "Standard High Velocity Load" in 16 gauge -- 3 1/4 Dram Equiv and 1 1/8 oz. of shot, nominally 1295 ft/sec muzzle velocity -- not a "field load". Next one down from that, price and performance-wise, is the "Heavy Field Load", at 3 DE and 1 1/8 oz (1240 fps), Next one down is the "Standard Field Load", at 2 3/4 DE and 1 1/8 (1185 fps), And following that are the "Light Field Loads" at 2 3/4 DE and 1 oz (1220 fps) and 2 1/2 DE and 1 oz (1165 fps). Of course at the top of the scale is the "Magnum Load" 3 1/4 DE and 1 1/4 oz (1260 fps). Normally only the Magnum and the Standard High Velocity Load were loaded in "high brass" hulls. All the rest were normally found in "low brass" hulls. Now, brass height could be almost anything, since a) manufacturers sometimes don't use much variety in their hulls (e.g. Remington), probably for cost reasons, b) we don't have hull "burn through" problems in these modern times, and c) the perception of the "benefits" (almost always dubious) of high brass (or steel) is no longer viewed as a marketing advantage -- an indicator of performance and quality-- especially in the 16, which is a thin market anyway.
Guess a bad choice in terminology. When I said "Field load" I was thinking high velocity. Like the loads I carry in the "Field".
Not at all. "Field load" is how I've always referred to any load intended for hunting, be it light, heavy, mag etc. I understand the dram equivalent system, but it's easier to just list payload and velocity of any given load.
I have shot and am still working through a case of the 1oz #6s in their Ultimate Upland which was rebranded to what you are looking at. They are excellent shells. The reason I still have part of the case is becasue I ration them, but I have used them effectively clear through the KS pheasant season on wild birds. They pattern well out of my Mod 12 choked WS2, and you don't feel overpowered on the occasional quail that comes up. I would love to score another couple of cases at the $49/ case I bought this one. They are hard to find, but can be ordered.
If you reload, they are Cheddite hulls. The ones I have tend to split after the first or second firing, so they aren't really worth much for that. I have roll crimped them with good results. And for you purple haters out there, they are green.
Joined: 24 Dec 2009
Location: South Dakota
And for you purple haters out there, they are green.
Green!! I'm a PURPLE POWER fan. But if they work well I'll shoot them. Heck I have a bunch of Kent TM that I bought several years when they closed them out and the are GREEN also. Ballistic Products in the Minneapolis area has them in stock and I'm heading to the Twin Cities tomorrow so I'll pick up a couple of boxes to try. $13.29 a box but that's about as cheap as I've found them.
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