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boykinspaniel
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:28 am  Reply with quote



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Has anyone shot the Agillia number 2 lead shot 2 3/4 shells. I have looked around on several websites and from what I have read it is a good shell and is going to get more popular here in the US in time. I want to use this shell for upland birds in the mid west.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:33 pm  Reply with quote



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I usually keep some 2's around for the bear/coyote gun ... very tough to get a good upland pattern out of this size shot , maybe a light mod .

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:03 pm  Reply with quote



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I think that using no.2 shot loads in the uplands would be a mistake. The load of big shot will result in few pellets in a pattern and result in a lot of crippled and lost birds when you do manage to hit them. there will be big holes in a pattern for birds to fly thru.
I would suggest shot no bigger than #5 for most pheasant hunting and 6 for quail. Sixes work great on pheasants over a pointing dog and have enough shot in a pattern to handle quail just fine. I usually carry loads of 71/2 for quail hunting but load with bigger shot when walking the fields.

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boykinspaniel
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:35 am  Reply with quote



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Byron Whitlock wrote:
I think that using no.2 shot loads in the uplands would be a mistake. The load of big shot will result in few pellets in a pattern and result in a lot of crippled and lost birds when you do manage to hit them. there will be big holes in a pattern for birds to fly thru.
I would suggest shot no bigger than #5 for most pheasant hunting and 6 for quail. Sixes work great on pheasants over a pointing dog and have enough shot in a pattern to handle quail just fine. I usually carry loads of 71/2 for quail hunting but load with bigger shot when walking the fields.


Thanks for the info on this. I usually shot a number 4 Federal and I have had a good success with it, just thought about going with something a little bigger.
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boykinspaniel
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16gaDavis wrote:
I usually keep some 2's around for the bear/coyote gun ... very tough to get a good upland pattern out of this size shot , maybe a light mod .


Thanks so much for the info. I usually shoot a number 4 Federal and I have had a great deal of success with it but thought about with something a little bit bigger and maybe a little bit more whop when it arrives. But sometimes bigger is not always better. Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:17 am  Reply with quote
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I use em on young Woodcock,at say 5 yards. Kidding aside they are good self defense loads.

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boykinspaniel
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:07 pm  Reply with quote



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byrdog wrote:
I use em on young Woodcock,at say 5 yards. Kidding aside they are good self defense loads.


What you saying is they are better self defense shells then hunting shells.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:02 pm  Reply with quote
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YES, Lead #2s only good in the past for geese and now for foxes

My comment, if the 4s do well for you in the 16 gauge, 5s will do even better.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:36 pm  Reply with quote
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#2 shot work very well on crow calling and close range coyote calling. I shoot them thru a modified and light mod choke out of my citori. They actually are very affective as a tool for the correct job.

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I believe that using larger than 5 shot through a 16 is likely to provide less efficient patterns.

It has been years since I patterned in depth, but when I did I determined by comparing five iterations of the same load, through same choke, in four sizes of shot for a total of 20 rounds tested in each of two chokes that my 16 Fox patterned best with size 6 and smaller and in size 5 less so, and size 4 much less so. Had I tested 2's I have little doubt it would have been even worse.

I have read that the larger shot through smaller bores does fall off in performance, though I can't recall where at the moment.

Lastly for the sake of pattern density going to the extreme of 2 shot gives up alot of your pattern. Per what others have already said 5's are as big as you need to go with upland birds with most defaulting to 6 for pheasant and 7.5 for quail.

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16GAwaterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:52 am  Reply with quote



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He must be speaking of 12 gauge, Aguila doesn't make a 16 gauge #2 lead shell
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:04 am  Reply with quote



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16GAwaterfowler wrote:
He must be speaking of 12 gauge, Aguila doesn't make a 16 gauge #2 lead shell


No I am talking about number 2 Agulia ammo in a 16. Please have look at there website and too at Able Ammo, they carry it. It is about 93.00 a case. Agulia makes the load in a 1oz and 1 1/8 oz. From all I have read from the comments that are posted I will stick with the number 4 Federal.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:24 am  Reply with quote
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excellent choice for Pheasants

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boykinspaniel
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:45 am  Reply with quote



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byrdog wrote:
excellent choice for Pheasants


Thanks for that. One last thing about the number 4 shell. Federal makes an 1 1/8oz and a 1 1/4oz. I am finding it hard to locate the 1 1/4oz shell. Would you stick with the 1 1/8 and not worry about the extra shot.
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