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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Kent Bismuth |
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Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:35 am
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Joined: 31 May 2009
Posts: 153
Location: Orofino, Idaho
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Has anyone ever used the 28 gauge ones for anything?[/quote]
Yes; the 7/8 oz. #6 load on a short hunt resulted in a one shot/one dead rooster for me. I only wish Kent would offer this load in #5 shot. |
_________________ I have more 16ga. shotguns than I need, but fewer than I want...At present: DeHaan S2, Remington M31L, Remington Wingmaster 870. |
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:29 am
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Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 713
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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pbr streetgang wrote: |
What’s an ounce of 5 of bismuth running these days? Pellet count?
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According to Rotometals an ounce of their Bismuth #5 has 206 pellets.
That is slightly more than 1 1/8 ounce of lead #5. |
_________________ Dennis
Current 16ga. Stable
Browning Citori Gr I
Browning Belgium Sweet 16
A.H. Fox Sterlingworth
Remington 11-48
Remington 31
Remington 870
Geco/J.P. Sauer BLNE
Winchester Mod 12 |
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:22 pm
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Joined: 25 Jan 2014
Posts: 230
Location: MN
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Back to Kent Bismuth. My wife and I have shot probably a dozen ducks with the Bismuth 5's over the past two years. Most were wood ducks at relatively close range. But I did drop a mallard stone dead at about 45 yards with the full choke barrel of a Model 90. I have noticed no problems with it. I have also killed about 5 roosters with it.
My wife is a strong advocate for non-toxic ammo for hunting. We bought a good supply of Kent Bismuth, so this year she shot the 16 ga Kent Bismuth 6's at all upland birds: woodcock grouse pheasant quail. She likes the concept of one shell for all bird hunting. "Green for birds, purple for targets". I still have plenty of lead but am shooting more Bismuth. I hope Kent can continue to offer these shells at this price.
As for the 28 ga Bismuth 6's, I just tried them last week on some Kansas quail. They worked great with a SK2 choke. I had brought them along in case we hunted some areas where no tox was required. But I ended up using them primarily. The other loads I had, mostly 3/4 oz AA's, wouldn't regularly cycle the Franchi AL-48. The 7/8 oz bismuth cycled it about 90%, the AA's about 20%. I need to give it a good cleaning and some testing before I take it on another out of state hunt.
Its gonna be a cold weekend, maybe I can figure out how to post some pics. |
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:22 pm
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Joined: 26 Dec 2006
Posts: 90
Location: At the edge of a Florida marsh
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FN,
Merci |
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:17 pm
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 66
Location: Iowa
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Fourtown, did you shoot those ducks on Fourtown Lake? Nice place.
FWIW, I was pulling #5 Kent BI shot out of pheasants that I shot this season and the shot is much smaller than the #5 shot that we use here. I have not been super happy with it myself, though a few birds have been taken with it, a few have been lost also.
It may be my imagination but I wonder if it patterns super tight and that could be part of my problem - hitting birds with just the fringe of the pattern. One bird I shot had only the primary tips of the feathers shot off, but a good dog caught him anyway. The pattern in the feathers was super tight for the range of the shot.
Just an thought anyway. |
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:56 pm
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Joined: 24 Jul 2016
Posts: 548
Location: Ohio
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I have been using 15/16 oz,1oz and 1 1/16 oz oz #4 (Rotometal's)with very good results out of the 16 gauges this year. Ducks and a couple of geese. I just treat it like lead using full,imp/mod,and modified. I do use my 12 gauge Ithaca with a 1 3/16 oz of 1's (buffered) when hunting geese. A low recoil killer to 50 plus yards. |
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Posted:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:39 am
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Joined: 26 Dec 2006
Posts: 90
Location: At the edge of a Florida marsh
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5’s or 6’s for early season blue wings over blocks? |
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:43 am
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Joined: 26 Dec 2006
Posts: 90
Location: At the edge of a Florida marsh
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That is slightly more than 1 1/8 ounce of lead #5.
Square load,
Are you implying that bismuth shot size is smaller than lead?
Thanks. Ted |
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Posted:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 am
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 66
Location: Iowa
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pbr streetgang wrote: |
That is slightly more than 1 1/8 ounce of lead #5.
Square load,
Are you implying that bismuth shot size is smaller than lead?
Thanks. Ted
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I think he is implying it is less dense, which it is. So you get more pellets per ounce. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:49 am
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Joined: 02 Sep 2010
Posts: 829
Location: SW Ohio
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The Kent Bismuth pellets are sized by british or european sizes. So a 5 is smaller than a US 5. From what I have read. So when I want a 5, I'll use Kent #4s. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:23 pm
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Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 66
Location: Iowa
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rdja wrote: |
The Kent Bismuth pellets are sized by british or european sizes. So a 5 is smaller than a US 5. From what I have read. So when I want a 5, I'll use Kent #4s.
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I've been measuring them directly and you are right, you want a least a size larger, if not more. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:06 pm
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Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 713
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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brent wrote: |
pbr streetgang wrote: |
That is slightly more than 1 1/8 ounce of lead #5.
Square load,
Are you implying that bismuth shot size is smaller than lead?
Thanks. Ted
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I think he is implying it is less dense, which it is. So you get more pellets per ounce.
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This is correct. Pellets are the same size but weigh less so more pellets per ounce. |
_________________ Dennis
Current 16ga. Stable
Browning Citori Gr I
Browning Belgium Sweet 16
A.H. Fox Sterlingworth
Remington 11-48
Remington 31
Remington 870
Geco/J.P. Sauer BLNE
Winchester Mod 12 |
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Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:37 pm
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Joined: 02 Jun 2016
Posts: 96
Location: Boreal Shield of Ontario
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This fall I bought a case of Kent bismuth #5 loads. Combined with my Simson
16 bore model 70, 32 in barrels, F/IM, I harvested 7 Canada geese, 4 mallards, 1 Black, 4 Bluebills and 6 woodies on Georgian Bay. Shots from my blind were 10-42 meters. I fired 28 shots. I am converted to Kent Bismuth as my only non tox ammo now. |
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Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:53 am
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It's good to hear these positive reviews. I bought up a decent supply, but I just haven't had to use any (yet) for my upland hunting. I did use it one day duck hunting last fall and cleanly folded a woodie with the only shot I had in range that morning. Sounds like they're not at tungsten/matrix level, but really decent for normal shooting ranges. I submitted the pictures of the patterns on the Cabela's reviews a couple years ago because they did pattern really well and I wanted to support the cause. Thanks for sharing your observations. |
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Posted:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:29 am
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Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 3373
Location: The Great Northwet
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I used the Kent 6's on quail this year to great effect. I even opened them up and put a polywad spreader disc on top and re-crimped. Worked great. My only complaint is that they are pretty hot loads to be using in vintage guns, leading to wood cracking. I have a small crack starting in my Husky that I attribute to this. |
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