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citorifeather

funny, but I am SO PISSED at the original comment that if I saw this person in public I'm not sure I could contain myself. My Dad was a decorated Navy Pilot (and 16 gauge afficianado) with a MASTERS degree from the naval postgraduate school. He has passed away, but I proudly display his thesis and picture in my office. During the cuban crisis his plane located and called in the destroyers to repel the first sub they tried to sneak in. To have some idiot imply that he was "stupid" - well I can't say it in public....

Evil or Very Mad

Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Boulder,Colorado

If your are stuck using #6 shot ( # cp 5 is my medicine of choice), then by ALL means use the copper-plated shot ! That stuff has significantly better penetration, from all reports I've seen.

The #6's worked quite well for me on our preserve shoot. I was shooting backup, and had some convincing kills. The M-12 16 gauge with 1 ounce loads [thanks Roadkill] worked quite well.

These posts have been very interesting. Now I am wondering if I've been
messing up . I've been chasing Kansas "Big and Wild" pheasants for 27 years. Early and late seasons. No dog . All I've ever used is 1 oz., # 7.5
shot at about 1200 FPS. 16 ga. Mod. choke! I've never had ANY problems.
Granted, occasionally a bird that hits the ground isn't completely dead yet but I've never lost one.
I hunt with a friend who uses a 20 ga., 1 oz load of 8's. . He doesn't seem to have any problems collecting pheasants for the pot either. On a recent quail hunt, while using a 28ga. 3/4oz. of #8's , we got into some wild pheasants. We each fired 2 shots. We took home 4 pheasants !
Sometimes I think that bird hunters fall into the same mind set that many
big game hunters do. " Bigger is better". Everyone should use the load they
have confidence in.
The real key (I think) to this is passing up overly long shots and above all
" You got to hit them "!

Good luck to All this season and Be Safe!

Rabbitdog.

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Day in and day out it's really hard to beat a good load of hard 6's on pheasants. Open barrel, tight barrel, early, late, 6's have a nice balance of pattern density and penetration to get the job done at all typical ranges.

These three got smoked yesterday by Federal 1 1/8 oz of hard 6's .

Yep, that's my old (1933) Remington 11 16 gauge. My Merkel 1620 (that "demanding little mistress") was giving me the cold shoulder, so I spanked her and took out an older, more experienced lady.

Rabbitdog, i agree withy you about apparent "magnumitis" afflicting a lot of hunters these days. The original question was about far shots, so that's why I advised larger shot size in my post. I also use a lot of 7-1/2's but when following pointing dogs, and shooting within 35yds.

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

Dave,
Nice pic of dogs, guns and birds. Is that a wired hair or a true Drahthaar? Either way, both are good looking dogs. I'm kinda partial to the Drahthaars. Wink

Did you get that bad little Merkel back in line? Razz

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These all fell to Federal 1 oz. 7.5's last Friday...............

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Birdswatter, nice going! Handsome dog, too!

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Thanks Dave....nice birds and great dogs that you posted too....

Member Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 989 Location: Las Vegas

Great pics! I'd love to see more from everybody. I'd have posted some of the Gambels quail I got Friday but (Bless me father for I have sinned....) I was shooting a 20ga. Benelli Montefeltro. I know I know. My excuses are:

1: Still tweaking the stock on the Sweet 16
2: Didn't want to drop the CitoriFeather16 while running through a cactus filled arroyo
3: See #2 above regarding the William & Powell SXS

Birdswatter, it looks like that rooster on your right is still twitching! Are you sure 7 1/2's are enough Laughing

I recently loaded up a handful of 1 oz. 5's but the pattern was pretty sketchy. I'm going to try loading some 1 oz. of nickle plated #6's from BP for roosters. Should do the trick.

Thanks again for the pics!

Matt

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

These all fell to 2.5" #6's from RST last Monday. Very Happy

Hope the pic works.

PS: No we didn't shoot the dogs. They were just dead tired from a full days hunt. So was I and the other 3 hunters. Wink

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

Well the link worked. How in the heck do you get the pic to show? I did what I have to do on a few other sites and all I got was the link. Question

Never mind, got it. Duh.

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH