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Bill K
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:09 pm  Reply with quote



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I am about to pull my 16 GA loader out of storage, and am looking for some heavy load recipes.

Can't explain why I want them, other than to parallel my 12 GA loads. I like 12 GA performance but want to justify holding onto my Browning 16 GA Citori Upland which is a sweet heart to carry - she's real pretty too.

For pheasant - I like heavy loads of 4's, may even consider making some spreader rounds using Polywad insersts (I shoot over English Setters and shots can be ridiculously close). In view of such wild shooting, getting a bird centered in your pattern may not be possible - that's why I like 4's, if you manage to get so much as one pellet on them - they go down, maybe not stone dead - but at least you won't be filling anybody else's game pouch, nor watching the bird run away.

Now for turkey, I'm really stroking my chin, same weight of load - but looking for pattern density.
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gomerdog
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:35 pm  Reply with quote



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Alliant has 1.25 loads on their website using Blue Dot, IIRC.
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brent
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:45 pm  Reply with quote



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There are 1.25 oz loads in Lyman's 5th.
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oldhunter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:03 pm  Reply with quote
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A lot of 11/4 oz loads out there

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hoashooter
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:43 pm  Reply with quote
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check out Longshot/Bluedot loads on the Alliant or Hodgdon website
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fn16ga
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:42 am  Reply with quote
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I have used this load with Precision Reloadings' nickle plated shot for turkey hunting . but never for anything else . Works great for that purpose.

1 oz #6 lead shot
Cheddite Green Hull (8 mm brass) 2 16 ga
Win209 Primer
22.5 grains Longshot powder
Cheddite 1628 wad

FPS (1209, 1211, 1217, AVG 1212 ES 8 )
PSI (11000, 10600, 11200, AVG 10933 ES 600)

No powder migration with the Cheddite wad in straight walled hulls .
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16gaDavis
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super mag : 25 grns Blue Dot , chedd hull and primer , DR over powder cup only with a 1/4;; filler wad , 600 grns shot , shot protector of freezer paper if wanted ..... 1210 FPS and 9800 PSI as tested by Precision .

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byrdog
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for those close shots Chilled #6 no poly wad thing needed.

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castnblast
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:39 pm  Reply with quote



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Lyman's 5th shows a WWCF Win209 25.5 Bluedot sp16 wad 1 1/4 oz load at 1170 fps and 11,300psi
I have loaded five but I'm afraid to shoot until tested because......I also tried from the Lyman 5th, a 1 1/8 version with 26 gr of Bluedot, W209, WWCF with specs of 1230fps and 9400 but tested 1285 and 11,400 by Precision Reloading.

Anybody else have any experience with this 1 1/4 oz load?
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DanLee
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:54 am  Reply with quote
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castnblast wrote:
Lyman's 5th shows a WWCF Win209 25.5 Bluedot sp16 wad 1 1/4 oz load at 1170 fps and 11,300psi I have loaded five but I'm afraid to shoot until tested


Lyman already tested them. You think Precision would do better?
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castnblast
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:05 pm  Reply with quote



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It's not that I think Precision would do better, but with such a difference in Lymans data for the 1 1/8 oz load and what Precision revealed I'm afraid the same jump in pressure and velocity for the 1 1/4 oz load could result in a potentially dangerous load.
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16GAwaterfowler
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:42 am  Reply with quote



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castnblast wrote:
It's not that I think Precision would do better, but with such a difference in Lymans data for the 1 1/8 oz load and what Precision revealed I'm afraid the same jump in pressure and velocity for the 1 1/4 oz load could result in a potentially dangerous load.

If anything send the to Armbrust for testing, Precision always seems to come out very high with their test results, Armbrust may give you a different opinion.
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DanLee
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:58 am  Reply with quote
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The recipe cited is in every Lyman edition since the second. I think if there were any problems with it, they would have become apparent by now.
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John Singer
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:10 am  Reply with quote



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I keep a log book of a lot of my reloading attempts.

Back in 2014, I loaded a few of the BPI 1 1/4 oz loads in the PT80 wad. I tried to pattern them in several shot sizes for a turkey load.

My notes indicate two things:

1. They patterned poorly.

2. The recoil was excessive.

The PT80 wad has no cushion section. That may explain one or both of the above observations.

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16GAwaterfowler
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:28 am  Reply with quote



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John Singer wrote:
I keep a log book of a lot of my reloading attempts.

Back in 2014, I loaded a few of the BPI 1 1/4 oz loads in the PT80 wad. I tried to pattern them in several shot sizes for a turkey load.
My notes indicate two things:

1. They patterned poorly.

2. The recoil was excessive.
The PT80 wad has no cushion section. That may explain one or both of the above observations.

Consider the source of the load information. Lyman I believe tests their loads which is why in 31 years they only had four editions of their manual, it takes time to test loads and put recipes together. BPI cranks out several hundred new and "improved" recipes every year, whether they work or not!!!
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